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A law in San Francisco that legalizes shoplifting up to $950 has caused the closure of stores all across downtown

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    #91
    Originally posted by siablo14 View Post

    Let's see if you can do a cost-benefit analysis. Even though it has been done already but you do one and let's see what you come up with.
    A mindset like yours and his leads to failure... victimhood.. It's something I can't comprehend.
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      #92
      Originally posted by Lomadeaux View Post

      A mindset like yours and his leads to failure... victimhood.. It's something I can't comprehend.
      What you talking about?
      No judgement was passed. He just described how it is.

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        #93
        Originally posted by Lomadeaux View Post

        Dude...... are you.... ****ING.............. kidding me right now?.............................................. .................................................
        You were unaware that many states are struggling with the costs of law enforcement and incarceration? That, y'know, they got budgets? That they need to prioritise some services over others?

        Choices are either finding cheaper ways of doing things or raising taxes, and nobody likes paying more taxes either... So what they supposed to cut to keep these dudes in prison that are just gonna come out and do it again? Education? Public housing provision? Mental Health or drug services, Family support? Cutting any of all of em leads to - guess what - More effing crime and more criminals that you can't afford to send to prison.

        And these issues ain't just affecting Blue states either - policing is gradually moving in that direction across the board - although the crisis is worst in densely populated urban areas which tend to lean ********.

        You starting to understand the complexity of the issue? I know it'd be great to have simple solutions to problems like this but the world just ain't that straightforward.

        Like I say, I don't have the answers, but at least I can go some way towards laying out the parameters of the problem.


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          #94
          Originally posted by _Rexy_ View Post

          It's not new. I remember before the pandemic someone posted a video of people inside of a walgreens with garbage bags just filling them up with cosmetics. You could hear someone shout "YOURE BEING ROBBED" and an employee walked away lol
          I don't doubt some employees give no fooks, but I find it super hard to believe cops aren't dealing with shoplifting under $950 like OP is posting. If so that's a crazy fooking law & I'mma have to make a weekly stop in CA to pick up $949 worth of sh^t.

          Mainly I'm just trying to find the middle ground in this situation once my question. With every issue in the US you gotta deal with R's or D's proclaiming, on brand, that everything is the end of the world cuz famous people are allegedly drinking children's blood or that everything is fine despite homeless people pooping in the cereal aisle of grocery stores in Portland.

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            #95
            Originally posted by Eff Pandas View Post

            I don't doubt some employees give no fooks, but I find it super hard to believe cops aren't dealing with shoplifting under $950 like OP is posting. If so that's a crazy fooking law & I'mma have to make a weekly stop in CA to pick up $949 worth of sh^t.

            Mainly I'm just trying to find the middle ground in this situation once my question. With every issue in the US you gotta deal with R's or D's proclaiming, on brand, that everything is the end of the world cuz famous people are allegedly drinking children's blood or that everything is fine despite homeless people pooping in the cereal aisle of grocery stores in Portland.
            From what I’ve seen/read, the places just don’t call the cops, or when they do they don’t really show up. Too much **** going on for misdemeanour theft. They’re sure not gonna do an investigation.

            and yeah, that right here is why I was so hesitant to make a Twitter account. Everyone speaks to the extreme now dialled up to 11. Rationality is thrown out the window. If you want police accountability, you want the entire police force defunded, disbanded and machinegunned. If you’re against UBI than you’re a ******* **** dictator

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              #96
              Originally posted by _Rexy_ View Post

              From what I’ve seen/read, the places just don’t call the cops, or when they do they don’t really show up. Too much **** going on for misdemeanour theft. They’re sure not gonna do an investigation.

              and yeah, that right here is why I was so hesitant to make a Twitter account. Everyone speaks to the extreme now dialled up to 11. Rationality is thrown out the window. If you want police accountability, you want the entire police force defunded, disbanded and machinegunned. If you’re against UBI than you’re a ******* **** dictator
              Well no doubt the police kinda suck in general. In Vegas they are out on the roads giving bs traffic tickets like crazy meanwhile the strip smells like Snoop & Willie Nelson are performing & I've never seen them hand out one ticket for smoking weed on the strip, which is illegal.

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                #97
                Originally posted by Eff Pandas View Post

                Well no doubt the police kinda suck in general. In Vegas they are out on the roads giving bs traffic tickets like crazy meanwhile the strip smells like Snoop & Willie Nelson are performing & I've never seen them hand out one ticket for smoking weed on the strip, which is illegal.

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                Smoking weed on the strip is illegal? I thought this was America!

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