A law in San Francisco that legalizes shoplifting up to $950 has caused the closure of stores all across downtown

[siablo14]

But Chinese restaurants aren't exempt, and they are more vulnerable than a chain restaurants, and if you see the picture in the article, most of them are of the oriental flavor.

There was a video someone posted when it happened, if I find it, I'll show you.

The places that sell alcohol shots over the counter are the ones being targeted. Not regular restaurants. The f_ckers in the sin business who sell shots.

[GhostofDempsey]

You beat me to it. The title is very misleading.

If you ever worked for anything in your life you'd stop splitting hairs. We all know what is going on in SF and California. It's only misleading to people who support criminals and thieves, people like you.

[siablo14]

But Chinese restaurants aren't exempt, and they are more vulnerable than a chain restaurants, and if you see the picture in the article, most of them are of the oriental flavor.

There was a video someone posted when it happened, if I find it, I'll show you.

Philadelphia City Council has approved a controversial bill to crack down on stop-and-go stores, a move many Asian business owners say constitutes discrimination.

The legislation calls for sweeping reforms to the small delis and corner stores that serve alcohol by the shot in many low-income neighborhoods.

[Citizen Koba]

The Cons far outweigh the Pros.

“All of us knew it was coming,” longtime customer Sebastian Luke told the San Francisco Chronicle. “Whenever we go in there, they always have problems with shoplifters.”

Mr. Luke has been posting photos of the shoplifting sprees. “I feel sorry for the clerks, they are regularly being verbally assaulted,” he said. “The clerks say there is nothing they can do. They say Walgreens’ policy is to not get involved. They don’t want anyone getting injured or getting sued, so the guys just keep coming in and taking whatever they want.”

Several retailers in the state have been sued by people caught shoplifting who claimed to be victims of racial profiling. Businesses understandably fear bad publicity and hefty payouts that may exceed their losses from the theft. Some large retailers including Goodwill, and Bloomingdale’s sought to punish shoplifters by requiring them to take a class in “life skills” to avoid a criminal complaint. The San Francisco city attorney then sued the educational company that provided the classes for extortion and false imprisonment.

In California, in short, trying to protect one’s property can be a criminal offense. Looters, on the other hand, typically go free thanks to a 2014 referendum that turned theft of property valued at less than $950 into a misdemeanor. Police stopped apprehending shoplifters because it wasn’t worth their time as thieves were released.

Larceny exploded after the initiative passed and has cost businesses in the state billions of dollars. Retailers have been pushing a referendum on Tuesday’s ballot (Prop. 20) that would increase the criminal penalties for shoplifting, especially for serial thieves who work with teams, which is now common in San Francisco.

But look who’s spending to oppose it: Unions and Silicon Valley gentry including billionaire investor Tom Steyer, Facebook CEO and the wife of Netflix CEO Reed Hastings. As ever, the rich can insulate themselves from social disorder caused by progressive policies. Everyone else can’t.

There are Pros and there are Cons. In your opinion the Cons well outweigh the Cons. In the eyes of the majority of people who actually live there the Pros outweigh the cons. You also reference proposition 20 which was also voted down only last November, after 6 years under Proposition 47. Clearly in the eyes of the inhabitants they're getting something right.. so what is it? You believe they're too ****** to know what's best for their own communities?

Look man I get it, I got nothing against shopkeepers and I think it's very damging to communities to allow businesses - especially locally owned businesses - to be damaged or forced to close because of crime but that clearly isn't the only relevent factor here although it's the only factor you've even mentioned. Overall it's becoming more and more widely recognised across state and political divides that the US is suffering something of a crisis of overcarceration which is financially and socially unsustainable, and further there's devoloping a broader understanding that treatment rather than punishment is the most effective approach to drug problems (which are actually the main thrust of proposition 47) or at the very least needs to make up part of a multi-pronged approach.

Also can I ask you once more to link your sources?

[HrNY]

Same here, just ignore his ass, he is a base troll. Doesn't contribute anything to the forum besides trying to stir up drama and beefs. He's an alt and a troll.

lol I've showed Newsome as breaking the law by allowing illegals to stay and he's like "show me where he's broken the law". lol it's right in front of him and he still doesn't "see" it.

but yes, nothing but a troll because if he really has mental health issue, that sucks as well and he should really get some help.

[PACnPBFsuck]

Philadelphia City Council has approved a controversial bill to crack down on stop-and-go stores, a move many Asian business owners say constitutes discrimination.

The legislation calls for sweeping reforms to the small delis and corner stores that serve alcohol by the shot in many low-income neighborhoods.

I get what you're saying, but why is it a Government's job to tell you how you can defend yourself from a possible threat, why is our Government allowed to fence themselves in, but the common folks have to be vulnerable?

Not every Chinese joint sells alcohol, If these Chinese joints didn't have barriers, there would be more Asians getting their wigs pushed back.

[siablo14]

lol I've showed Newsome as breaking the law by allowing illegals to stay and he's like "show me where he's broken the law". lol it's right in front of him and he still doesn't "see" it.

but yes, nothing but a troll because if he really has mental health issue, that sucks as well and he should really get some help.

Silly snowflake! That's within his remit! It's not criminal for him to that. It's being contested in court too, so we shall see.
But you have nothing to prove that it is criminal. So hush-up snowflake!

[siablo14]

I get what you're saying, but why is it a Government's job to tell you how you can defend yourself from a possible threat, why is our Government allowed to fence themselves in, but the common folks have to be vulnerable?

Not every Chinese joint sells alcohol, If these Chinese joints didn't have barriers, there would be more Asians getting their wigs pushed back.

Red - And it ain't all Chinese joints being forced to take it down. The ones who sell the shots are being forced to.

Blue- When you are in the sin business, government enforces tougher rules.

[siablo14]

Several retailers in the state have been sued by people caught shoplifting who claimed to be victims of racial profiling. Businesses understandably fear bad publicity and hefty payouts that may exceed their losses from the theft. Some large retailers including Goodwill, and Bloomingdale’s sought to punish shoplifters by requiring them to take a class in “life skills” to avoid a criminal complaint. The San Francisco city attorney then sued the educational company that provided the classes for extortion and false imprisonment.

Have those shoplifters won those lawsuits? Anyone can sue, BlackDepmsey, but can they win in court?

[TheMyspaceDayz]

Is that an attempt at a joke?

That was a successful joke all around. Launch and dismount 10/10.