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    Originally posted by squealpiggy View Post
    That's a little unfair. Wigan are a very new club. The question should be if Arsenal had the history of, say, Preston North End would he be a gooner?

    The answer is no because Preston North End were not going through the club's most successful period while Dirk was first getting into football.

    He ****s on about history but the only history he cares about is the one that was current during his formative years. A child of the 90s supporting Arsenal is exactly the same as a child of the 80s supporting Liverpool.
    He's an odd lad. Our clubs are soulless because the owners want the clubs to win. But his owners couldn't care less as long as the supporters keep putting money in their pockets.

    Originally posted by El Fenomeno View Post
    Just had a look, they won 1 of 6 in the league when he didn't play. They fell apart a bit when he went off against Madrid in the 2nd leg as well.

    I want them to win I'm just not sure they're strong enough.
    It willl be interesting to see how Klopp adjusts. Do they press the action as per usual? Or try some other method of attack? Gotze was their maestro, without them they are rather linear.

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        Anyone want to make a bet? I got 20 bil on Borussia with 1:3 odds in my favour..Anyone?

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          I cant decide on ITV1 or SkySports for the final

          What you boys going for?

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            Originally posted by El Fenomeno View Post
            What's Dortmund's record like without Gotze?
            They've beaten Bayern without him before, don't know how many times but it did happen.

            Originally posted by El Fenomeno View Post
            Just had a look, they won 1 of 6 in the league when he didn't play. They fell apart a bit when he went off against Madrid in the 2nd leg as well.
            well there ya go.
            Last edited by USA4LIFE; 05-25-2013, 01:38 PM.

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              I prefer sky sports tbh.

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                Good pace to this so far.

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                  Now we got a game.

                  1-1.

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                    Clearly not on purpose but that had to be a penalty.

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                      Fecking Die Borussia!!!

                      I'm gonna have a heart attack.

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