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    Originally posted by AssasinKing View Post
    Ok well berba and nani......

    Nani was our player of the season IMO, he just cant really get into the team at the moment
    Nani hasn't played because of Chelsea's fullbacks.. won't play vs Barca for the same reason. I would go with Chicarito aswell for the best player.. i think both deserve it over Gareth Bale though. Also you need to take it account it's not just Chicaritos goals which have been important.. the guy has turned Rooney back into a beast and right now arguably top 5-10 player in the world

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      Originally posted by Flawless* View Post
      As I emphatically stated before, Cole-Valencia was a ATG tussle, with Cole slightly coming up on today due his workrate

      Care to place a bet on the game,

      I have Barcelona to win, all my points
      Alright, if United win, I get all yer points, if Barca win you get half of your points, in other words 1:2 odds, deal?

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        MAN UTD: Van der Sar 7, Fabio 6 (Smalling 5), Ferdinand 6, Vidic 7, O'Shea 6 (Evans 6), Valencia 9, Carrick 6, Giggs 7, Park 8, Rooney 7, Hernandez 7.

        Subs not used: Kuszczak, Anderson, Berbatov, Nani, Scholes.

        Booked: Rooney, Giggs.

        CHELSEA: Cech 7, Ivanovic 4, Terry 6, David Luiz 4 (Alex 7), Cole 4, Mikel 4 (Ramires 7), Lampard 7, Essien 6, Kalou 5 (Torres 5), Drogba 6, Malouda 7.

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          I hope Fabio Coentrao goes to Bayern.

          I also heard Bayern got Neuer and the guy who was top scorer in 2nd division in Germany on lock down.

          Kraft is going away to a **** team.

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            Robinho was definatley a flop. Elano was always decent i don't know why City got rid of him, he started games for Brazil at the 2010 World Cup.

            Sandro looks awesome and Lucas has been brilliant this season.

            Gomes last season was one of the best keepers in the Premier League, this season he's been shocking. Typical Gomes.
            Dos Santos has never looked like making it in the Premier League but everytime he plays for Mexico he looks decent.

            Rafael/Fabio/Anderson are all still young and haven't cemented their place in the team yet, but we've seen promise from all of them imo. If Anderson wasn't so hampered by injuries over the past 2 seasons then he would be fairly consistent and starting a lot of games by now. Kleberson was arse.

            David Luiz looked awesome when he first came though his blunder against United was embaressing. Ramires i never really rated even before he went to Chelsea.

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              Brazil is the country on earth with most talent.

              No Brazilian playing in England is considered World Class, very good players maybe, but not on the level of Kaka, Lucio, Maicon, Alves.

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                Originally posted by BABY MICH View Post
                All glimpses of talent none have managed to stick around and prove it on a consistent basis yet. Rafael hasn't moved on as well as he should have this season.. he keeps getting injured aswell, his brother has taken his place. Just look at Brazilians in other leagues.. Shaktars god damn team is practically 80% brazilian.. they do great in Italy/Spain aswell.

                I mean just look at the 2 brazilian lads City paid big bucks for.. Jo and Robhino.. they were BIG time failures especially JO lol and City will>>Arsenal next season so don't say they suck. It's more the tough rugged ones which do all right here.. Junhino in his first spell at boro was very good though
                But you said most Brazilians fail in England and thats not true. If it was true we wouldn't have so many Brazilians in the league right now. I can think of many nations that do worse then Brazil in the EPL. For example...

                Argentina - Crespo, Veron, Scaloni, Pellegrino, Insua, Marinelli, Emanuel Villa.

                Portugal - Bebe, Bosingwa, Da Costa, Deco, Helder Postiga, Hugo Viana, Maniche, Ferreira.

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                  Robinho was certainly not a flop. He wasn’t outstanding but not a flop. 15 goals in the first year in the EPL with 6 assist isn’t a bad return at all. It was the dressing room problems that made him leave England. Heck, Nani hasn’t ever scored 15 goals ever in his career in the EPL

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                    Originally posted by OG Iron Fist View Post
                    But you said most Brazilians fail in England and thats not true. If it was true we wouldn't have so many Brazilians in the league right now. I can think of many nations that do worse then Brazil in the EPL. For example...

                    Argentina - Crespo, Veron, Scaloni, Pellegrino, Insua, Marinelli, Emanuel Villa.

                    Portugal - Bebe, Bosingwa, Da Costa, Deco, Helder Postiga, Hugo Viana, Maniche, Ferreira.
                    I could easily find as many who have failed.. but to be honest the more accurate thing to say is that they seem to find it harder here and have far more success abroad.

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