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    Originally posted by Baby Sloth View Post
    hahahahahahahahahahahaha worst post ive seen this thread.

    You deserve a red k for your ******ity and nuthuggery.
    Agreed, such an arrogant ridiculous post from a ****** bitter Englishmen,

    They can produce players like Spain can, so they “try?and belittle their league.

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      Originally posted by Baby Sloth View Post
      No, unlike you, i actually watch La Liga. I know Ronaldo has become better since coming to Real. He is a far more direct player and doesnt attempt a million useless stepovers.

      And La Liga is a better league, because in EPL they arent used to dribblers like Ronaldo, in La Liga all defenders are used to that and better against defending at it. These defenders are playing because of their skill, not because of their physical attributes like in England.

      Ronaldo had an easier time getting passed defenders in England, than in la Liga.
      Great post, also might I add. Unlike the EPL, Spanish defenses don’t allow to be open as much and are more compact. They can hold the ball more than EPL clubs, making them much more difficult to break through

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        Originally posted by Flawless* View Post
        Nonsense,

        Get over with this garbage that the EPL is the best league. If anything the La Liga is the best league right now. They have the two best teams along with a solid middle table which constantly battle it out for the Europa league while English clubs constantly fail. EPL defenses are absolutely crap; they are too open and clumsy. Ronaldo had a field day with those weak defenses and Messi would do the same if not worse
        EXACTLY

        green K

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          Another thing with Messi is that because he always has 2-3 team mates in close proximity to pass to straight away when he gets the ball it throws the defender off in Messi decides instead to go at them and take them on. He's better on the ball than Ronaldo but Ronaldo can't disguise it like Messi can and has to beat people on pure skill and raw power.

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            Originally posted by Flawless* View Post
            Nonsense,

            Get over with this garbage that the EPL is the best league. If anything the La Liga is the best league right now. They have the two best teams along with a solid middle table which constantly battle it out for the Europa league while English clubs constantly fail. EPL defenses are absolutely crap; they are too open and clumsy. Ronaldo had a field day with those weak defenses and Messi would do the same if not worse
            English teams don't care about Europa league. Man City easilly had the talent to win it this year but didn't really try hard enough.
            You must have heard Harry Redknapp talking about it the other day, when he said he'd rather drop down a place and let Liverpool take 5th so that Spurs didn't have to enter the Europa league.

            Barca are the best team in the world by far, Madrid are decent too but United could beat them, an on form Chelsea could probably beat them too. They have a top 2, England has a top 4 and possibly a top 5 or 6 next season depending on how teams strengthen in the summer.

            I also disagree that their mid table is good, it's really not. Villareal got thrashed by Porto in Europa and Valencia who are 3rd in the league got knocked out of the CL by Schalke who were beaten 4-1 by United's reserves.

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              Originally posted by Baby Sloth View Post
              No.

              Messi cant score against great teams who play very deep. He never scored against Inter, Chelsea or Real. The only big teams who play defensively against Barca. I know he has scored against Real, but that was when they werent defensive like now. After Mourinho came, Messi has only scored against Real when they were down to 10 men.

              Messi hasnt unlocked those defences once in his entire career. Without room he is nothing. Even Greece managed to mark him out of a game in the world cup.

              That being said, Messi is great when his team is dominating against lesser teams or naive teams that play offensively against Barca, like Arsenal for example.
              I actually share some of the same criticisms about Messi.

              But Im talking about in general. Look at their assists for example. Ronaldo never plays the kind of defence splitting passes that Messi does. And Messi was excellent in the 5-0 game despite not scoring. His pass for Villa is something Ronaldo could never do.

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                I honestly don't think i'm biased when i view the PL as the best league.

                Barcelona and Madrid aside, the league is ****e.

                Valencia got trashed, Villareal got trashed.

                Arsenal
                Chelsea
                Liverpool
                Manchester United
                Manchester City
                Tottenham

                The top 6 of the Premier League is frightening.

                AND YES WE ARE ALL AWARE BARCELONA ARE THE BEST TEAM IN THE WORLD, THAT ISN'T THE ARGUEMENT.

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                  Originally posted by Baby Sloth View Post
                  He scored goals, what more can you ask of an offensive player?

                  How did United really need him when they won that penalty shoot out anyway??? LOL you are really a hater arent you. When Barca need Messi he is no where to be found. He did NOTHING against Inter over two legs. nothing at all... Against Germany in the World Cup same story, you wouldnt even know Messi was on the pitch.
                  The penalty shootout was what decided the match and he choked from the spot. If John Terry hadnt slipped, it would've been Ronaldo that cost United the final instead of deciding it in their favour.

                  I agree with you on the things about Messi. Which is why I dont think hes the greatest ever yet. But hes still above Ronaldo
                  Last edited by Dirk Diggler UK; 05-11-2011, 11:50 AM.

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                    Schalke replaced their manager between the VAlencia games and the United games.

                    The new manager is *****. none of the midfield players tracked back lol. You saw how open their defence was. Schalke were a shadow of their former self.

                    And Valencia would beat Tottenham, Man City and Liverpool easily. Tottenham is the most overrated team on the planet, after they beat Milan.

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                      Not only that, United sends over people who can't cut in in the Premier league like Forlan and Rossi and straight away they are scoring 20+ goals a season. We send over Pique and he's Barca's 1st choice CB.

                      And it's not just United. Tottenham send over Freddy Kanoute after really under performing in the Premier League and then he's suddenly having 20+ goal seasons. And it's not just 1 season they are consistently scoring these many goals over many seasons.

                      Fran Merida couldn't get a game for Arsenal, now he's at Atletico making 20+ apps for them. And let's not forget Giovanni Dos Santos who's at Racing Santander, he couldn't get a game for Spurs.
                      Last edited by Joe2608; 05-11-2011, 11:55 AM.

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