The Perfect Fight Night

[Shanus]

We could add overtraining! You put everything in training and have nothing left for the fight.

That sounds good, they could add overall 'exhaustion' to a fighters life.

[Da Iceman]

how about when you get like 38 you lose a dramatic amount of skill, or if you havent fought in a while or retired and came back.

[LS-Injection]

Between All Of Us Posting In This Part Of The Forum We Could Make A Holy Hot Game/games...i Just Wish We Could Get A Games Company To Take In Our Ideas...mmmmmmmm I Think We Would Be Able To Get It Sorted, With A Bit Of Time Lol...

[Da Iceman]

maybe somebody here that knows how to use a game engine could make it?

[Shanus]

maybe somebody here that knows how to use a game engine could make it?

I doubt anybody has the cash for that.

[Xanxicar]

Although im a very good player(with a top notch online record) but i still think that parrying is lame and gay. i mean who in real boxing parries like crazY? and why the #### does it leave you vulnerable for 5-6 secs once someone parries your punch? k if u could counter me with a single punch by parrying my shot then thats fine(much closer to reality) but come on 5-6 punches? thats simply lame.... If any of guyz play with top players online than you will know how those bitches normally play . all they do is parry parry and parry and run all the time. I beat these so-called top players 99.9% times but still its annoying to fight these guyz and fights are extremly boring most of teh time.


So in FN4 they should remove parrying completly or only let u throw a single punch once u parry someone. This is much closer to reality imo. They should also put a limit on how many impact punches you can throw per round or make them drain lot more stamina. There are alot of noobs that throw impact punches all teh time but they are EXTREMLY skillless so if ur any good at this game then you will surely beat them. best way to beat em is by avoiding their haymakers and then hit them like a train or just keep that jab in their face and keep hitting them on the body/head. but still these guyz can be fairly annoying for a new/unexperienced player whos looking to play fairly.




regards

[The Noose]

The haymakers didnt make much of a difference to me. I never needed them.
Maybe id throw one to the body sometimes.

But i agree about the parrying. ****ing annoying.

[Jarlaxle]

I came up with these styles a long time ago when designing a game


1.Boxer puncher bounce

Description
A little more square then a basic stance with good up and down feet movement.

Pros
Extra movement makes for a tougher target
Square stance gives more power and speed to power hand
Faster combos

Cons
A bit slower going backwards
Bounce uses more stanima
A more square stance hurts defense of straight punches

2.Boxer puncher w/o bounce
Description
More square then a basic stance. Orthoxdox enough to box but squae enough to slug however you want.

Pros
Square stance gives more power, and speed to power or off hand
Faster combos
Cons
A bit slower going backwards
square stance hurts defense of straight punches

3.Square predator boxer w/o bounce (MAB)
Description
Square stance gives more power and speed to off hand. Features a somewhatlower and outcorcked lead hand that gives speed and power to lead hand powershots.
Pros
Gives lead hand more power and speed to powershots
Gives a slight advantage to sliping because chin is tucked and stance is lower.
Makes overhand right quicker
Faster combos
Inside punching bonuses

Cons
Creates a slower angle for jab
Harder to block out of this stance
Extra movement can tax stamina more.
Slower retreat

4.Square predator boxer bounce
Description
Similar to Square predator but with bounce

Pros
Gives lead hand more power and speed to powershots
Gives a slight advantage to sliping because chin is tucked and stance is lower.
Makes overhand right quicker
Tougher target makes with bouncing
Faster combos

Cons
Creates a slower angle for jab
Harder to block out of this stance
Extra movement can tax stamina more.
Slower retreat
Bouncing taxes stamina

5.Square pure boxer w/o bounce (Too sharp N Sweat Pea)
Description
An orthodox stance with feet set more like a boxers, but with gloves and waist square like a boxer puncher

Pros
Give a bit more power and speed to strong hand
Faster retreat then boxer puncher
A little better angles for slipping then boxer puncher
Faster combos
Cons
Harder to land right hands
Being more square up top hurts defense of straight punches
Difficult style to perfect and suffers balance and style points penalties
Open stance hurts power some


6.Pure boxer strong hand sitter (Marciano) even though he would also use slugger styles

Description
Similar to square/pureboxer however this is more deliberate. This style is used by pure boxers who tend to have more in there off hand then their lead. The off hand is ****ed up and in position to throw hard and fast.

Pros
More power and speed to strong hand
Faster retreat then boxer puncher
A little better angles for slipping then boxer puncher
Harder to land right hands
Good vision rolls with punches

Cons
Open stance hurts power some
Offensive right hand leaves openings for opponents left
Right hand comes a little telegraphed


7.Low guard Martial Arts influence (Whitter Hamed)
Description
Often used by former martial artist or kickboxers. Uses a lot of martial arts foot work. Believes they are so quick with their footwork their guard is lowered

Pros
Lower guard improves vision and slipping
Lower guard rest arms
Retreats well
Creates unusual angels for counters
Charisma boost for fans
Faster combos
Clinch bonus

Cons
Kinda weak inside
Blocks can be late
Can get flashed knockdown as footwork get eratic
Punches can get wild and lose accuracy lunge in.
Suffers style and balance points penalties

8.cutie boxer (James Tony)
Description

Similar to pure boxer but more square. The more square stance is made up for by passive footwork and a lower more ready to slip stance. Often used to set up counters and showboat as your opponent misses and you land.
Pros
Rolls with punches easyer
A bit more power and speed to strong hand
Faster retreat then boxer puncher
Good angles for slipping then boxer puncher
Cons
Style point and balance hit
A bit harder to block punches
Strong or off hand is a tad slower


9.low guard defensive
Description
Guard is lowered and to make up for lowered guard an added croutch and defesive posture is used.


Pros
Arms are saved
slipping bonuses
faster combos
good vision rolls with punch
retreats faster

Cons
Harder to block
First punch in combo can be telegraphed
Weak inside

[Jarlaxle]

10.low guard cutie
Description
Guard is low but other advantages like high shoulders rolling with punches are used to make boxer less defisive.

Pros
Saves arms
Rolls real well with punches
Strong slipping bonuses
Partial blocks with shoulders
Retreats well
Pleases crowd

Cons
Intentinal blocks can be late
Somewhat weak inside
Focus and style points penalties
Shoulder blocking can expose ribs and hurt shoulders

11.slugger
Description
Open stance with gloves ****ed to fire near the chin. Footwork is focused more offensive

Pros
Powerpunch bonus in speed and power
Clinch bonus
Style points boost
Defends chin and the very big shots well
Inside punching bonus

Cons
Does not cover top of face well can cause cuts
Can lose control on powershots and lunge causeing acseedntal headbutts
slower going back and laterally
Square stance make rolling punches tougher

12. Philly w/o bounce

Description
Lead hand is lowered while off hand is ****ed. Block better then low guard but this style trys to defend with strong offence.

Pros
Lead arm gets plenty rest
Off glove is ****ed somewhat with a faster path to land
Good vision and rolling with punches

Cons
Off hands are harder to block
Lead hands are a bit harder to block
Lead hand loses some accuracy
A bit slower going backwards


13.Philly w shoulders (PBFM)
Description
A more defensive version of the Philly style with use of shoulders to block more foot movement and fluididty

Pros
Lead arm gets plenty rest
Off glove is ****ed somewhat with a faster path to land
Good vision and rolling with punches
More natural blocking with shoulders
More rolling with punches
Faster Combos

Cons
Off hands are a little harder to block
Lead hands are a bit harder to block
Lead hand loses some accuracy
A bit slower going backwards
Power penalty


14.Pure boxer

Description
Those that use this style have an angled stance with the back foot further back.

Pros
Sees punches well
Blocks punches well
Lead hand speed and reach advantage

Cons
Off hand is slower with less power
Slower going forward
Style penalty
A bit delibrite in footwork


15.Philly with bounce
Similar to Philly but uses more movement to be a tougher target.

Pros
Lead arm gets plenty rest
Off glove is ****ed somewhat with a faster path to land
Good vision and rolling with punches
Bounce makes boxer a tougher target

Cons
Off hands are harder to block
Lead hands are a bit harder to block
Lead hand loses some accuracy
A bit slower going backwards
Bounce causes a tax on stamina


16.Martial Art influence
Description
Even more rare then low guard martial arts influence. It’s a hard to gauge mixture of all styles

Pros
Deflected punches are deflected far
Bonus in all punches
Bonus in all clinches

Cons
Wild punches can be countered
Low blows are more common and other fauls
Lunging with clash of heads
Bonus and style penalty

17.Upright cutie w/o bounce
Description
This a more upright style that allows for more vision and reach at the sacrafise for exposing more chin.

Pros
Rolls with punches better then pure cutie
A bit more power and speed to strong hand
Faster retreat then boxer puncher
Good angles for slipping then boxer puncher
Reach advantage
Cons
Style point and balance hit
A bit harder to block punches
Strong or off hand is a tad slower
Upright style exposes chin and can make getting caught with a good shot a great shot


18.Upright cutie
Pros
Rolls with punches better then pure cutie
A bit more power and speed to strong hand
Faster retreat then boxer puncher
Good angles for slipping then boxer puncher
Reach advantage
Bounce makes it tougher to hit
Cons
Style point and balance hit
A bit harder to block punches
Strong or off hand is a tad slower
Upright style exposes chin and can make getting caught with a good shot a great shot
Bounce taxes stamina
Can be a tad weak inside

19.Pic a boo (Winky Wright)
Description
A ametuirsh style that keeps up a natural block for head shots at all times when using this style. Used at time when you want to punch out your opponent

Pros
Blocks most punches very well lefthooks and overhand rights can land but not too hard

Cons
Arms take a beating and that hurts locational stamina
Punches come out of guard and are slower
Poor vision hurts slipping and rolling


20.Predator low guard (Hamed)

Description
A style often used late in a fight when a boxer wants to save his arms for the final assaults

Pros
Slight lunging punch bonus
Low guard pleases crouwd
Charisma boost
Gives a slight advantage to slipping because chin is tucked and stance is lower.
Faster combos
Inside punching bonuses


Cons
Creates a slower angle for jab
Much harder to block out of this stance
Extra movement can tax stamina more.
Slower retreat
Can be wild and lunge
Loses a little acuracy


21.Euro influence (Tszyu)
Description
A style that originated over seas in which the hands are held out further out to gain a speed and reach advantage.

Pros
Speed bonus to jab and straight right
Easier to clinch
Blocked punches are deflected far

Cons
Lunging punch penalty
Natural blocking penalty
Harder to block body shots
Minor lateral movement penalty


22.Rhythm defense (RJJ)
Description
An ambiguous stance that can gain Pros and Cons of above styles that uses a rocking movement back and forth making it easier to combo, lunge and retreat

Pros
Lunge bonus
Powershot bonus
Combo speed bonus
Retreat faster

Cons
Some guard dropping making it tougher to block
Style points penalty
Single punch or first punch in combo suffers power penalty
Combines other styles and suffers other penalties

23.Low weave slugger (

Description
A style often used by shorter boxers in which boxers maintains a low stance and gloves held like a slugger. Trys to weave out of the croutch and come under opponent

Pros
Uppercut bonus
Slipping Bonus
Powerpunch bonus in speed and power
Clinch bonus
Defends big shots well
General power shot bonus
Cons
low blows
suseptable to uppercuts
Does not cover top of face well can cause cuts
Can lose control on powershots and lunge causeing acseedntal headbutts
slower going laterally

[POETICDRINK2U]

I like alot what you have written,but Pernell"Sweet Pea" Whitticker,Meldrick Taylor and most Philly boxers fought at an angle with thier shoulder in the front(true philly shell)