Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

The deadlift and boxing

Collapse
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

    The deadlift and boxing

    Can anybody fault it at all?

    The pros and cons of weightlifting for boxing will continue to be argued forever.

    It's kind of proven pretty conclusively for example that the bench press is detrimental to overall boxing performance but it still finds its way into pro and top ammy regimes because it carries other benefits like strength and protection and it's damaging effects to the neural and musculoskeletal systems for boxers can be mitigated by periodization anyway.

    But what about the deadlift?

    I am of the opinion that, even if you are staunchly against weightlifting in general for boxing, you will find no logical fault with the deadlift as part of training, even if end of period phases!

    Ironically, since the deadlift is the purest, heaviest and most total body test of strength one can really do, this seems rather surprising.

    But as a movement, is really trains the entire posterior chain, firing them in the correct sequence at every joint for basically all athletic movements found in boxing. It does not interfere with neural pathways for explosive forward movements as a result. And every stabilizer muscle in the body, including all the niggly ones in the upper back get tuned in the proper way to support healthy joint strength and mobility.

    A deadlift works the neck, lats, traps, deep muscles of the back, lateral stabilisers also, spine, glutes, hips, thighs and calves and shoulders like no other can. It is superior to size raises at lateral shoulder development. Superior to crunches at developing thickness in the abs and superior to the array of core exercises at developing it's entirety.

    Whatever the cycle, you can benefit from the deadlift in your regime imo.

    Thoughts?

    #2
    4 sets of 3-4 reps and not lifting to failure will help in general , i think. I stopped strength training 1 year ago. I have experience in weight lifting not for decades but for a years. If i will start it again , i certainly will do only deadlift and chin up. I want to say the wise words of Plato (may be Aristotales , idk). He said a thing like this "success is what we do everyday". Today's science proves this. If you punch right straight 1000 times to the wall and will do it 2 weeks (of course with one day off) , your right straight will be really punishing. It's all about nervous system.

    by the way , i wrote offtopic a lot. For your question : yes, you can benefits from deadlifting. but don't expect toooo much. What will make your punches like a rock is punching. Increase your speed , increase your balance , accuracy and technique , then a 90+ kg guy with 200 kg deadlift record will not have a chance against you.

    boxing science actually proves that , weightlifting (+)'s are really little and (-)'s are exist but not much. Boxing and you will be better at boxing.

    Comment


      #3
      Yeah PLEASE, nobody for a second think that I am promoting deadlifting as a replacement for ACTUAL punch training, even for power!

      Punching makes you a better puncher.

      The deadlift I am promoting a purely conditioning exercise.

      It maintains and builds useful muscle mass, promoted hormone and well being effects that proper boxing training depletes.

      The reason I am promoting it is because it does NOT interrupt boxing training neural facilitation like I know other weights do, not because of it's direct effects on punching power/speed.

      Comment


        #4
        Ya Its good but I dont think boxers should go to crazy with it due to risk of injury. Using lighter weights will reduce the injury risk but arent effective for strength gains. I'm talking high level pros who cant afford to get injured

        Comment


          #5
          I think the deadlift is a great excercise for boxers when you put it as part of a circuit. As long as the weights aren't too heavy then it is a great conditioning excercise

          Comment


            #6
            As a boxer t would be hard to do weight,think of the traing you would do in general,after a good session your already going to be tired and if you put in the work your supposed to then your muscles are gonna be tight and fatigud,so why put extra pressure on them and risk injury? not gonna sit here and pretend i know everything, but i would say unless they are light weights you would not be able to lift weight and train properly,their just wouldnt be enough recovery time, maybe if you done weights for a months and then trained for m a month or somthing along those line it may be benifcal,,,but why not just strap weights to your wrists and ankels while training??that way your not losing out on fittness and speed??

            Comment


              #7
              So long as you are doing heavy reps that doesn't make your legs beef up, but rather just adds strength its fine, good even, if you start bodybuilding by exhausting your muscles and making them grow big with higher reps like 5- 10 reps its going to cripple you as a boxer.

              It will make you heavier put you in a division you dont belong and cant compete in, it will cripple your endurance, and wont do much for your power speed n foot work.

              5 x 5 reps is still body building.

              Bodybuilding and boxing are NOT compatible.

              Most people that weight train for boxing are hurting their performance.
              Last edited by AlexKid; 04-19-2015, 03:11 PM.

              Comment


                #8
                Originally posted by AlexKid View Post

                It will make you heavier put you in a division you dont belong and cant compete in, it will cripple your endurance, and wont do much for your power speed n foot work.

                .
                I was fighting at 139 and took a weight training course at school. I lifted heavy with 10 reps 3 days a week and ran a mile and played softball on the off days during the day. I boxed at night. I maxed 320 squat and benched 230. Fight night during that time I was strong, in shape and everything went very well. If you train your muscles in both it will work out better than you think.

                Comment


                  #9
                  Originally posted by AlexKid View Post
                  So long as you are doing heavy reps that doesn't make your legs beef up, but rather just adds strength its fine, good even, if you start bodybuilding by exhausting your muscles and making them grow big with higher reps like 5- 10 reps its going to cripple you as a boxer.

                  It will make you heavier put you in a division you dont belong and cant compete in, it will cripple your endurance, and wont do much for your power speed n foot work.

                  5 x 5 reps is still body building.

                  Bodybuilding and boxing are NOT compatible.

                  Most people that weight train for boxing are hurting their performance.
                  That's my main issue with lifting and boxing.

                  Comment


                    #10
                    Originally posted by Hype job View Post
                    That's my main issue with lifting and boxing.
                    That comes down to your diet. You can get very strong without the muscle mass.

                    Comment

                    Working...
                    X
                    TOP