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    #51
    Originally posted by Fire4231 View Post
    My answers are below...
    1. What constitutes as being in the other persons pocket? Is Yildrim constantly sparring with Canelo or was that something they did in the past?

    2. You are the only one claiming Canelo is the Franchise god. I have not seen or heard anyone else claim that. I have seen people correct you and pointing out that he was the Franchise champ at 160. That does not carry into whatever weight he moves to otherwise what is to stop him from dropping weight until he has been the franchise champ in 9 divisions?

    David needs to get his act together. He lost the belt twice for ****** reasons. Artur is in a higher division than Canelo. If Artur wants the fight why not meet him at 168? Andrade is in a different division as well. If Andrade wants to fight Canelo then have him or David or Artur beat Plant and get his belt so Canelo can fight one of them in September.

    Jermall last fought months ago and a lot longer time than when Canelo fought yet Canelo if fighting again before Jermall. So again, where is Jermall? Why is he not fighting 2 months after he beat Derevchenko?

    3. You think Canelo gave himself that tag? That was done per the WBC which voted on it. So go ask them how it works. Canelo has no say in how the tag works and as far as I can tell he is not considered the franchise champ at 168. Derp.

    How is him having control of his career a bad thing? Oscar has been on record saying that Canelo wants to fight so and so and Oscar has been saying no or denying certain fights. What is so wrong with trying to unify a division? Who exactly is Canelo avoiding and what has that person done to make you think he is a threat big enough for Canelo to avoid?

    4. You are clueless and like I said above. Go ask the WBC how the tag works. Canelo did not give it to himself.

    5. So you deflect and avoid the real question. Jermall is no longer his mandatory because he is in a different division. What is so hard to understand about that? If Jermall wants to be his mandatory again then have him move up to 168.


    Jermall and Canelo are the same age. Who's resume would you say is better and who has fought better opposition? Jermall is still sitting at 160 while Canelo has fought all the way up to 175.

    Please explain to me what is so special about Jermall and Andrade. Why does Canelo have to fight Artur when he is in a division higher? David is a good fighter but until he gets his act together why does he deserve to make all that money fighting Canelo?

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      #52
      If Yildirim lands 2 clean shots he does better than Callum


      WAR YILDIRIM!

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        #53
        Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post
        Why would they call it out? In order to fight Callum Smith for the WBC belt Canelo had to agree to defend against Yldirim next.
        Stop making isht up. Canelo wanted to fight Yldirim. It’s the reason he left DAZN.

        He's meeting their requirement and getting it out of the way with a quick turnaround too. Only 2 months after his last fight.

        Stop lying he is the WBC Franchise Champion, there is no requirement. When it’s A fighter that represents too much risk he gets Franchise powers. When the challenger is an easy guy he picked then he must fight his mandarory. This is fancy ducking and cherry picking.

        Meanwhile Jermall Charlo hasn't fought in 4 months and has nothing scheduled either.
        The black fighter distraction. Sorry bro not biting. We are talking about Yildirim what chance does he have? Why does he get a high profile fight?

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          #54
          Originally posted by Silver Spear View Post
          1. What constitutes as being in the other persons pocket? Is Yildrim constantly sparring with Canelo or was that something they did in the past? Look it up you tell me, it is not an abstract term.

          2. You are the only one claiming Canelo is the Franchise god. So Canelo doesn’t have the Franchise designation from
          The WBC? Stop wasting people’s time with you BS naivety act.
          I have not seen or heard anyone else claim that. Do
          Some reading, he is the WBC Franchise Champion. No one is educating you here.
          I have seen people correct you and pointing out that he was the Franchise champ at 160. That does not carry into whatever weight he moves to otherwise what is to stop him from dropping weight until he has been the franchise champ in 9 divisions? You are not this dumb and uninformed. You guys come with these hallow talk bites. If you read my answers to you then you already know you are 100% wrong. Challenge that. Not repeating myself as my answer came from Sulamain himself. Who is your credible contact?

          Quit posturing fan boy.you just want to keep your man crush safe.


          David needs to get his act together. He lost the belt twice for ****** reasons. Artur is in a higher division than Canelo. If Artur wants the fight why not meet him at 168? Andrade is in a different division as well. If Andrade wants to fight Canelo then have him or David or Artur beat Plant and get his belt so Canelo can fight one of them in September. Canelo needs to fight somebody bottom line his legacy is drying up.

          Jermall last fought months ago and a lot longer time than when Canelo fought yet Canelo if fighting again before Jermall. So again, where is Jermall? Why is he not fighting 2 months after he beat Derevchenko?
          Canelo needs to fight somebody bottomline.

          3. You think Canelo gave himself that tag? That was done per the WBC which voted on it. So go ask them how it works. Canelo has no say in how the tag works and as far as I can tell he is not considered the franchise champ at 168. Derp.
          Shut up he left Dazn because they didn’t approve Yildirum before the WBC vote. Stop lying you **** faced fiction writer.

          How is him having control of his career a bad thing? Oscar has been on record saying that Canelo wants to fight so and so and Oscar has been saying no or denying certain fights. What is so wrong with trying to unify a division? Who exactly is Canelo avoiding and what has that person done to make you think he is a threat big enough for Canelo to avoid? Canelo needs to fight someone bottom line. No one is paying for this fight and it never should have been approved.

          4. You are clueless and like I said above. Go ask the WBC how the tag works. Canelo did not give it to himself.
          Shut up, you saying Sulamain isn’t credible at the WBC?
          5. So you deflect and avoid the real question. Jermall is no longer his mandatory because he is in a different division. What is so hard to understand about that? If Jermall wants to be his mandatory again then have him move up to 168. You aren’t saying anything but the same nonsense I just smacked you around on. Bro just make sure Canelo starts fighting someone.

          Jermall and Canelo are the same age. Who's resume would you say is better and who has fought better opposition? Jermall is still sitting at 160 while Canelo has fought all the way up to 175.
          Jermall’s because Canelo has a loss and is ducking him.


          Please explain to me what is so special about Jermall and Andrade. Why does Canelo have to fight Artur when he is in a division higher? David is a good fighter but until he gets his act together why does he deserve to make all that money fighting Canelo?
          Easy Canelo is afraid to fight them, and his fans are hiding him. If these fights are so easy let’s see them **** boy.

          That’s all you get. You aren’t saying isht just repeating the same old talking points I just hung you on. GTFOH with this weak @$$ keep talking to something sticks commentary.
          Last edited by Fire4231; 01-22-2021, 06:12 PM.

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            #55
            Originally posted by Fire4231 View Post
            The black fighter distraction. Sorry bro not biting. We are talking about Yildirim what chance does he have? Why does he get a high profile fight?
            Black fighters are what you're about, bro. I think other posters should be aware of where this is all coming from in case they didn't know already.

            Canelo is keeping busy and active and is trying to unify at 168 lbs (he is Franchise Champion at middleweight which doesn't apply to this division.) That should be praised not criticized.

            But if you want to criticize then you should at least keep that same energy with Jermall Charlo, who even his brother admitted ducked an offer from Canelo.
            Last edited by ShoulderRoll; 01-22-2021, 07:15 PM.

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              #56
              Originally posted by Fire4231 View Post
              David Benevidez would be a great fight? Or am I hater trying to get Canelo beat?
              The franchise title you are mentioning is irrelevant because that was at 160 lbs a division Canelo no longer fights at.

              It's Benavidez spellchecker you are right about the grammar though it's supposed to be are but the sentence still made sense. You literally wrote waisting as you in you were grabbing someones waist probably Billy Joe Saunders completely different word therefore it didn't make sense.

              I'd like to see Canelo fight Benavidez or Bivol they pose way more of a threat than anyone in the UK now and probably in the next 10 years.

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                #57
                Must see... ShoulderRoll attempts to play the black card Karen style...

                Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post
                Black fighters are what you're about, bro. I think other posters should be aware of where this is all coming from in case they didn't know already.

                WTF...ShoulderRoll When did you start doing me any black favors? No bro switching the focus to a black fighter is how you try to pivot in an indefensible discussion about Canelo’s cherry picking. Stay focused I am not done with you.

                Canelo is keeping busy and active and is trying to unify at 168 lbs GTFOH... Canelo has been busy manipulating the board to create phoney accolades fighting lesser competition. What’s the point in honoring a unification when the fighter cherry picked his own weak opponents and visibly dodged the best in the division? No honor in that bs. Just a fat historical opportunist with red hair. This guy is no Chavez Sr. that is for sure.

                Bro... it’s not going to work we see thru it. So this master plan to pretend Canelo was one of the best to ever do it through artificial legacy will always have a fat asterisk. What’s even crazier is Canelo is good enough to fight the best. I don’t know that Charlo, Benevidez or Andrade beat him. I just know Canelo is ducking them. But this is a sport. Checks must be earned. Do it right or do what you want in retirement exhibitions franchise champions.

                (he is Franchise Champion at middleweight which doesn't apply to this division.) Lol...No he has the franchise designation as a fighter. From Sulaiman’s own mouth this is non-title designed to protect special fighters from the threat of a Mandatory as they move “up and down,” in weight. That is until you are Teophemo then the special powers change to highest ranking belt for the WBC? But that doesn’t apply to Canelo, no bro you guys are not going to keep moving the rock on this one. If Canelo wants the cherry pick pass then be recognized by it. But stop pretending this thing is something different each day.

                He dodged Charlo as a Mandatory using the “Franchise Designation,” so he has no Mandatory as a fighter. So don’t come back for the ripe for picking Mandatory and pretend it is weight class specific. So when Canelo sets up his own Mandatory there is just no escape from the magnetic pull. But when the sanctioning body chooses a Mando, the Franchise anti gravity Designation kicks in? Who runs the sport Canelo or the WBC? I think we know what’s up. And... who the **** is this guy with the magical designation that’s becomes a belt when a fighter morphs into Teophemo. Can’t make this bs up. **** everyone that believes in this bs.


                That should be praised not criticized. Not praising WBC paychecks for cherry picks. Maybe we should also praise online catfishing masters for taking old people’s savings? Or maybe we should praise fake children’s health charities also? Or maybe we should go ga-ga over repeated PED cheats? Matter fact let’s just give serial cheats like Tyson Fury the keys to the sport?

                Bro!!!! Boxing sucks because of guys like you. Not praising staged accolades for any fighter. Keep your Rocky Fielding exhibitions cinnamon. We never asked for that isht and that belt is meaningless. If Benevidez didn’t drop the belt on the scales we wouldn’t be seeing none of this so called “unification,” activity. You know better than to mess with me on some spin @ ShoulderRoll.


                But if you want to criticize then you should at least keep that same energy with Jermall Charlo, who even his brother admitted ducked an offer from Canelo.Ohhh... Now we pivoting to Jermell to get at Jermall? To get away from Canelo’s **** business? No bro we are still talking about Canelo’s cherry picking @$$. No black card dimensional shift to stir up the racist support. Take the ground and pound bro. Justify the fight with Yildirum. A fight Canelo was fighting for even before the WBC voted Avni as a Mandatory. Didn’t Yildirum just lose his last fight to Anthony Dirrell? When was the last time he fought... oh 2 years ago? Canelo could atleast fight Anthony Dirrell!!! There is no reason for him to be a Mandatory. No ****ing reason at all. Benevidez slept him. And even if he was a legit Mandatory Canelo doesn’t have to fight them things anyway.

                Bro you are exposed. You have no defense here. Canelo has you all looking stooge silly trying to make 3 Card Molly a PGA Sport. Further exposure of boxing’s bias and the very reason sites like this will fold eventually. Save that BS for the amateurs. We are clearly paying attention to this non-stop run on ****ery.
                Last edited by Fire4231; 01-23-2021, 10:58 AM.

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                  #58
                  Can I Bus....

                  Originally posted by Kannabis Kid View Post
                  The franchise title you are mentioning is irrelevant because that was at 160 lbs a division Canelo no longer fights at.
                  Bro that sound bite isn’t working. The Franchise Champion is beyond any weight class. Matter of fact, per Sulaiman the inventor and re-engineer (changing by the minute), it is a designation not a belt designed to protect “special,” fighters from Mandatories as they move up and down in weight. Save that BS bro, we cooking the butchers finest steaks here. Come back with another excuse. My source is strongest and I have links.

                  It's Benavidez spellchecker you are right about the grammar though it's supposed to be are but the sentence still made sense. You literally wrote waisting as you in you were grabbing someones waist probably Billy Joe Saunders completely different word therefore it didn't make sense.

                  So the **** what!!! What does that have to do with Canelo staging his own mandatory and pretending he is forced to fight him?

                  Here bro I am misspelling **** Fase for you, run with it clown. But then get back to this healthy boxing debate beat down. I am on you bro and you are not escaping into a dimensional spelling bee ant man!!! How is it Canelo fighting Yildirum for a belt? Waiting...


                  I'd like to see Canelo fight Benavidez or Bivol they pose way more of a threat than anyone in the UK now and probably in the next 10 years. Or Jermall Charlo, Beterbiev, Andrade... bottomline there are so many great fights for real legacy. However we aren’t going to see any of these fights until some one is visibly on a decline or diving for dollars. Why because Canelo is out there building artificial legacy. We know it and boxing will not forget it when he has built is flimsy cardboard ladder as an all-time great. What is so silly is he may be good enough to beat some of these guys. Thanks to the WBC’s checks for cherries program we will never know.
                  Last edited by Fire4231; 01-23-2021, 10:59 AM.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Fire4231 View Post
                    Must see... ShoulderRoll attempts to play the black card Karen style...
                    I just speak on what I see. Being a black supremacist as some form of payback against white supremacists is wrong. I'm against all forms of racism, period.

                    If posters doubt me they should keep an eye on your comments and judge for themselves. That's all I'm saying.

                    You make no sense about Canelo "creating" his own mandatory. Yldirim was named the WBC mando after Benavidez beat Dirrell for the title. Benavidez vs Yldirim was supposed to happen next after the Roamer Alexis Angulo fight. But Benavidez couldn't make weight against Angulo and lost the belt on the scales.

                    Those are just the facts. Canelo had nothing at all to do with any of that. No need for you to argue against this as nothing you will say can change the truth.

                    As for Jermall Charlo...both De La Hoya and his brother Jermell have said that he turned down an offer to fight Canelo. It is what it is.
                    Last edited by ShoulderRoll; 01-23-2021, 11:31 AM.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post
                      I just speak on what I see. Being a black supremacist as some form of payback against white supremacists is wrong. I'm against all forms of racism, period.
                      Who is a black Supremacist? So a sport unnaturally oppresses black fighters and black business owners with out apology and I need to endure singing spirituals to be a humanist? So because I point out the inequities that we all see including your punk @$$ I am a black supremacist? Bro GTFOH, any one who wants to see boxing behave like a sport is a supremacist in your book. You are all for the unnatural advantage.

                      In your mind black genetics was the ultimate supremacist that’s why you don’t mind black fighters being cheated and never want to see the cross-cultural fight happen. I just want to see the ****ing fight. What else you got in your little race based card deck?


                      If posters doubt me they should keep an eye on your comments and judge for themselves. That's all I'm saying.
                      Bro or you can bring them to me directly coward. Bro you will not contain me. And I can be a natural humanist or I can fight fire with fire. But the idea that you control what I do next is not happening.. You saw the bloody trail when attacked. Guess what I am proud of it. You can also find where I have been if favor of all fighters when they earn their accolades. You need to check yourself. The fact that you can read some one say the things to me that were said and get offended by the response says all we need to know about you brother. ShoulderRoll deez swinging nutz.

                      But big question bro what does this have to do with Canelo? Yet another distraction because you have no real points in this discussion. Keep doing the racial shuffle. Call me what you want to call me so I can go all the way in on you.


                      You make no sense about Canelo "creating" his own mandatory. Three responses later you still believe Canelo has Mandatories? Let’s see what happens the next time a genuine threat shows up. Then that Franchise Designation will be alive and kicking once again and that is at any weight class it is needed.

                      Yldirim was named the WBC mando after Benavidez beat Dirrell for the title. He was also Canelo’s sparring partner that Canelo has been talking about fighting for some time. Then explain how Rocky Fielding also received the opportunity. And why Yldirim? He lost to Direll and Benavidez? Why isn’t he fighting Benavidez? And if not Benevidez why isn’t he fighting Anthony Dirrell? Come on ShoulderRoll explain this Mr. Racially Neutral?

                      Benavidez vs Yldirim was supposed to happen next after the Roamer Alexis Angulo fight. But Benavidez couldn't make weight against Angulo and lost the belt on the scales. So what he still beat the brakes of Angulo, why didn’t Benavidez get the fight? If it is the two pounds why didn’t Roamer get the fight? Even Dirrell has a stronger claim. You sir aren’t making sense. Avni hasn’t fought in two years and lost worst than all three options yet he who happens to be Canelo’s employee gets the fight. An employee that DAZN rejected for Canelo and forced him to walk away from the biggest active contract in boxing? Never seen a guy throw away Tens of millions per fight and initiate a law-suit to fight a mandatory. Especially when he just gave up his belt to duck a Mandatory at 160.

                      Those are just the facts. Canelo had nothing at all to do with any of that. No need for you to argue against this as nothing you will say can change the truth.No that’s just your BS spin to cover your boys actions. You wouldn’t know a fact if there was an available lie. You sir have no integrity. How do you live as a hollow human being?

                      As for Jermall Charlo...both De La Hoya and his brother Jermell have said that he turned down an offer to fight Canelo. It is what it is.
                      As for your references to Jermall Charlo you have no credibility on the topic. You want to address Canelo’s Franchise designation? Did Sulaiman not say it’s a designation to help special fighters moving up and down in weight do so without the distraction of their mandatories? So why is Yildirim here once again? When do we get these special fights from these special fighters? Yes Mr. ShoulderRoll it was Canelo that chopped down that cherry tree. I can not tell a lie.
                      Last edited by Fire4231; 01-23-2021, 12:39 PM.

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