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    #21
    Originally posted by Pac=Duran View Post
    This gimp never learned anything from his years as a boxing coach.

    Universal Truth of Boxing: The skilled boxer will beat the power puncher 8 times out of 10 at least.

    This truism of boxing is even more relevant at the highest level of the game.

    So what does Abel do? He takes a super accomplished amateur fighter that is near fully formed and then trains him to be a power puncher. What a joke lol

    He shoukd have been training skills and defence 90% of the time. GGGs power was already there. Dont get me wrong, GGG is a very skillful fighter and beat Canelo in the first fight, but he could have been so much more.

    Thoughts on this?
    The way Golovkin fights is in built!

    Don’t think it can be taught, not at his age

    If you look back to the amateurs he had a similar style just a little more amateur friendly

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      #22
      Originally posted by To Be Frank Doe View Post
      But GGG fans are content to just flick lazy jabs at Canelo 1/3 times for a “win.” The truth is, if you can’t close the ring and miss, then you’re just following the guy around at his game. If GGG had landed missile shots to Canelo’s body while Canelo was on the back foot then it would be a completely different story. Most fights where a guy is walking or closing the ring have successful attempts to land to the body to secure points. Just shooting 1/3 jabs while Canelo is a master at rolling head movement doesn’t impress all judges. The judges were very generous to give GGG rounds in that he didn’t engage fundamental power punching, for a guy who was marketed and showed power punching throughout his career, while Canelo did do it but Gennadiy didn’t.

      All that said, they were interesting fights, but to cry robbery is just fans whom don’t know real boxing. Foreman and Tyson had Canelo winning. I guess it’s because they were disappointed that the bigger man trying to walk down the smaller guy didn’t risk any power punching. Tyson and Foreman were power punchers. It’s not complicated.

      The Draw made sense. “But but Canelo went life and death with Golovkin.” Lol
      That's one way of looking at it. Problem he just didn't just land flicking jabs. There were plenty of hard head snapping jabs and yes he did land power shots. So how many punches did Canelo land on the back foot. Very few if not any. Meanwhile the clock is ticking and for the majority of the round Canelo isn't doing much offensively. Golovkin obviously controlled those rounds because Canelo couldn't or wouldn't mount an effective offense. Power shots is any punch that isn't a jab. The relative power of the punch has little to do with it being counted as a power punch. The fact if the matter is Golovkin outlanded Canelo in both fights in the majority of the rounds. Outside of some superficial swelling and cuts both guys never hit the canvas or were sent staggering across the ring in either fight.

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        #23
        Originally posted by TonyGe View Post
        Didn't say he couldn't make the weight either. He:s the guy that has concerns about making weight.



        “It will probably be very difficult to lose weight,” Alvarez said during a post-fight press conference following his 11th round knockout of Sergey Kovalev. “It’s always been very difficult for me to lose weight. However, we must continue creating history and I can do it.”
        Where are you citing that from?

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          #24
          Originally posted by -Kev- View Post
          In the post fight interview at the press conference Sanchez says: Canelo is the champion today, he deserves it.

          In an ESPN interview while still in the arena Sanchez says he had no issue with the scores and thought GGG lost because he felt he was ahead going into the 11th and 12th round and he was “imploring” GGG to fight in those two rounds in which he said GGG didn’t do and that cost him the fight.

          I’m sure money was involved but GGG probably didn’t like that his trainer wasn’t throwing a tantrum about the decision and was all happy for Canelo and congratulating Canelo on the win and not having any issues with the decision.
          Context is everything when it comes to interpreting meaning, especially when a person is speaking off the cuff in an emotional situation.

          Abel was obviously disappointing with the result and the fact that GGG couldn't do what he asked him to do before the last round, which was to win it decisively.

          GGG left the ring in a temper without giving a post fight interview. There had been a lot of tension and bad feeling between the fighters during the build up over Canelo's PED test failure. Abel, I believe, was already looking ahead to a third fight and didn't want any more controversy getting in the way of negotiations, so he accepted the judges decision and gave Canelo his props, which was the sensible thing to do, in those circumstances.

          The dispute that ended his partnership with GGG was purely financial and had nothing to with those post fight comments of Abel's.

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            #25
            Originally posted by To Be Frank Doe View Post
            Where are you citing that from?
            From the words that came out of his mouth.

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              #26
              Originally posted by TonyGe View Post
              From the words that came out of his mouth.
              So where are you citing it from? It’s easy to make stuff up without a source. I want to hear the verbatim

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                #27
                Originally posted by To Be Frank Doe View Post
                So where are you citing it from? It’s easy to make stuff up without a source. I want to hear the verbatim
                It was reported by several news sources but here is one link.

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                  #28
                  When your fighter has power, it's easy to take credit for the wins when ultimately, that is what's winning the fights. Look at Wilder or let's say Kelly Pavlik. Pavlik was trained by a frikin asphalt paver. How did he go over 30 wins undefeated with one of the highest KO% in middleweight history until he took his "L"s? Obviously, having that kind of power didn't hurt his chances. He took a beating in a few of his fights where his power ultimately took over but it shows he was never solid fundamentally. He was missing a lot of tools in the box. I see GGG similar.

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                    #29
                    ?? GGG looked just great with Sanchez...you know what kiiled him?...his 35 years old...yep father time. not Canelo, not Sanchez, not Derev.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by #1PaperChamp View Post
                      What you say, boy?



                      "Canelo is a champion today and the fight was close enough that one round made the difference"



                      "How I scored the fight? I scored the fight even. The 12th round was the pivotal round and I thought we were behind. I thought it was even but, you know what, Canelo won. This fight was a 1 round fight and a 3rd fight is merited"

                      Sounds like Abel explicitly admitting Canelo won.

                      If a murderer never admits to their murder...does that make them innocent? Then what kind of dog shit logic do you operate with lmfao
                      Abel said that he scored the fight even, but he accepted the judges decision, which was that Canelo won.

                      What part of that is your peculiar brand of "logic" unable to handle?

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