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    #81
    Originally posted by Nay_Sayer View Post
    Skillwise, Toney is miles ahead of Usyk. It's not even close...
    What do you base this on?

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      #82
      Yes. He was undisputed champ in arguably the strongest CW division ever.

      He's right up there.

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        #83
        Originally posted by Long jabber View Post
        Having the most accomplishments definitely puts him up their, but skill wise its holyfield
        - -Field a face first club fighter.

        Look how Mike Spinks carved up prime Qawi vs Field in hospitalized critical condition after a disputed split against the now tubby Qawi.

        What grade U in?

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          #84
          Originally posted by Nay_Sayer View Post
          Skillwise, Toney is miles ahead of Usyk. It's not even close...
          - -Take the unanswered challenge!

          Name the fight won vs a top fighter where Tub of Goo won on sublime skills.

          Stay tuned, boys, this gonna be great comedy. Gonna dedicate this to the long departed besotted Boozo.

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            #85
            Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post
            - -Take the unanswered challenge!

            Name the fight won vs a top fighter where Tub of Goo won on sublime skills.

            Stay tuned, boys, this gonna be great comedy. Gonna dedicate this to the long departed besotted Boozo.
            Mccallum ,barkley ,gabbard, rydel booker soo much more

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              #86
              Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post
              - -Field a face first club fighter.

              Look how Mike Spinks carved up prime Qawi vs Field in hospitalized critical condition after a disputed split against the now tubby Qawi.

              What grade U in?
              Holyfield is a club fighter? Thats about the dumbest thing I've seen typed here

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                #87
                Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
                What do you base this on?
                How many other fighters climbed from mw to hw? James toney would destroy usyk

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by Long jabber View Post
                  How many other fighters climbed from mw to hw? James toney would destroy usyk
                  Lots actually.

                  Yeah...no I don't think he would destroy Usyk actually. He never destroyed any top tier fighter in his career it certainly would not start with Usyk.

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                    #89
                    Toney went life and death with Jirov, I have an impossible time imagining him dealing with Usyk let alone destroying him.

                    As far as fantasy fights go Toney has to be one of the most overrated fighters out there. He made a career out of fighting aggressors that would fall in.

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by dan_cov View Post
                      Toney went life and death with Jirov, I have an impossible time imagining him dealing with Usyk let alone destroying him.

                      As far as fantasy fights go Toney has to be one of the most overrated fighters out there. He made a career out of fighting aggressors that would fall in.
                      Forget Jirov, James Toney lost to Dave Tiberi in his prime.

                      Wouldn't agree Toney only fought aggressors who fall in, he fought plenty of slick boxers. He just so happened to look terrible against every last one of them.

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