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A some point unless he retires soon Fury will lose

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    #21
    Originally posted by nubianpiye View Post
    I don't agree at all as mentioned he's barely escaped losses twice, if he was stopped by Wallin on cuts no one would have complained and he was hurt badly against Wallin in Round 12. He was outboxed by Cunningham and decided to use his size and weight and was lucky to not be stopped immediately in Wilder 1 fight.

    I think you are setting yourself up for a major disappointment if you put him on a pedestal because Widler if I'm honest with you isn't very good and never was that doesn't put you ahead of any one really. Wilder is a power puncher who was looked at as a joke by everyone until this ****** UK against US thing started in boxing. Michael Hunter is a much better skilled fighter than Wilder. When Wilder was supposed to go to Russia to fight Povetkin he would have lost to be honest.
    Fury comfortably outboxed Wallin despite the cut and being weight drained, he knocked Cunningham spark out and most people thought he won the first Wilder fight.

    It's very easy for you to call Wilder useless in retrospect. However I'm pretty sure I remember you picking him to knock Fury out.

    Fury can lose by a lucky punch, or by a cut, but its clutching at straws really.

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      #22
      Originally posted by -Kev- View Post
      But Wilder is a bum, according to your other post.

      I didn’t request for you to mention the most popular names on Fury’s resume. I asked, in your opinion, the best 3 fighters he fought. Best, meaning they are the best in your eyes, great wins because he beat a pretty good boxer.

      You called Wilder a bum, so you can’t count him. In your eyes. he is not good, he’s a bum. Bum boxers are below B level. A bum boxer is an easy win for anyone, usually used as a stepping stone fighter.
      I don't see bum squad as a great win but its better than wallin cunningham etc. I don't have fury as number 1 in the division.

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        #23
        One thing is for sure, most people here don't know a thing about boxing. Scary

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          #24
          The more a boxer fights and who he fights the greater are his chances of losing. Losing is part of boxing as well as winning. Sometimes you win and sometimes you lose.

          The longer Tyson Fury fights the greater are his chances of receiving an L. It's inevitable. He already escaped two of them. I don't believe he escapes another one.

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            #25
            Originally posted by denium View Post
            Fury comfortably outboxed Wallin despite the cut and being weight drained, he knocked Cunningham spark out and most people thought he won the first Wilder fight.

            It's very easy for you to call Wilder useless in retrospect. However I'm pretty sure I remember you picking him to knock Fury out.

            Fury can lose by a lucky punch, or by a cut, but its clutching at straws really.
            You Dont remember that because it never happened. I'm not some after timer I've never rated wilder. You will not be able to find a post with me saying a positive thing about him because I Dont rate him and never have. He is a very poor boxer with good Athletic ability and power in the right hand that's it.

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              #26
              if fury was an american he could reign for the next ten years undefeated and retire as the goat. he has the attributes to do it.

              imagine fury if he had the ref and three judges on his side every fight? we're talking full minutes of clinching/leaning on his opponent EVERY round, getting away with headbutts, elbows, low blows etc.

              if fury were smart, hed demand every fight happen in the UK from now on with 3 uk judges and a uk ref.

              imagine an alternate reality where russia or china were the mecca of boxing and every fight had 3 russian/chinese judges and a russian/chinese ref? we'd be calling them ****** dirty cheating commies. funny how that works

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                #27
                I had him losing 7 rounds vs Fat John Mcdermott so he has already lost to me at least. Very successful career since though.

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                  #28
                  I think Tyson Fury is his own worst enemy. His performances against Cunningham, Wallin, McDermott etc were likely because he over looked his opponents and probably found it mentally difficult to get himself up for those matches. I don't think he has much of an interest in boxing anymore. Three more fights and he should hang em up and go do something else. He's already cemented himself as the best of his era.

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                    #29
                    I think someone will have to clean him with one punch at this stage.

                    Which can obviously happen at heavyweight.

                    I think Fury will only fight Wilder and AJ.

                    It's the WBC so they're not gonna make him do anything unless he fancies knocking over Charles Martin ffs .

                    With Fury he probably loses to someone not that good who he just relaxes against and gets laid out. I doubt that's Wilder because Wilder has been such an excuse maker that the fire is likely already lit.

                    Charles Martin will finally walk this world like a God, lol

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by denium View Post
                      Did he really give him a lesson in the rematch? To me, he fought wide eyed and scared, he wouldn't go anywhere near Ruiz and was literally running away from him. Now compare that to how Fury and Wilder handle rematches, they dominate, and TKO or make them quit.

                      Ruiz isn't a great boxer, he's short with tiny arms, Joshua shouldn't be losing to guys like that regardless of circumstances.

                      Joshua just doesn't have the skills to beat Tyson Fury, and i don't think he has the heart either. I'm not saying that he's a bad boxer, i think he's defo top 3, but Fury is just on another level to everyone else.
                      Joshua shouldn't lose to Ruiz, I agree. The only way he loses is if he gives up his own advantages and plays to the little fat man's strengths. Which is exactly what he did in the first fight. He got into trading at close range against a guy with no foot movement and short arms.

                      In the rematch he maximised his advantages and took away Ruiz's strengths. But you think that's wide eyed and scared.

                      Which is it? He shouldn't lose? Or he should fight his opponent's fight so he can lose?

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