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A some point unless he retires soon Fury will lose

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    #31
    In his own words 'just like rocky marciano i will retire undefeated heavyweight champion the 2nd man to ever do it'

    Fury is pretty good at predictions and following through with them. He seems to be the kind of person who visualises what he says every night before he goes bed

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      #32
      I'd expect a fighter with good body work to beat fury his body is such a large target it's interesting how everyone goes head hunting against him considering he has such range and good head movement but his body is so large and fleshy. Even though I consider him better than both I think this and white have a good chance against him as both work the body well and have good punch variety.

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        #33
        Anyone who thinks Fury isn't special needs to find a new sport.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Toffee View Post
          He's levels above them. But even then it just takes one shot. You can't have seen many worse cuts than Fury's against Wallin make it the distance?

          He beats Wilder 4/5 I reckon.

          The rest he's 9/10.

          Except for Joshua. A boxer/puncher vs a boxer. Fury still isn't a puncher - even at that huge weight. I think, and have always thought, that AJ is all wrong for Fury. He's not good enough to bully AJ. He'll take too many shots. And if he stays outside he won't have the luxury of only taking a couple of shots like against Wilder - AJ will land more regularly.
          Its funny because I always thought this until I saw AJ against Parker. He refused to engage and if Parker had had abit more height and reach AJ would've probably had real problems. AJ was abit gun shy, and now hes probably going to be worse. He's not marching in on Fury. Nobody considered Ruiz a puncher either, but he didn't need to be. I think AJ looks like Wlad did against Fury. Unsure and stiif, unable to take the chances he'd need to to get in range and put it on Fury.

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            #35
            Theoretically, yes.

            But the probability is very low.


            He's his own worst enemy.

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              #36
              Originally posted by Toffee View Post
              We will see.

              Ruiz was a huge upset - they happen. He gave him a lesson in the rematch. He showed that styles make fights, and he could adapt his style to one that Ruiz couldn't get near. It was the safe play. But rest assured, Joshua can ****. You don't need to have watched much boxing to know that.

              I wouldn't compare Wilder's shots to Joshua's in a proper boxing match. Wilder has great power when he steps in, but his technique fails him going backwards. Joshua can hit - he has technique. And his hands are fast enough.

              It would be a much better fight than Wilder.
              I think if the punches wilder landed on fury lands on Aj, he ain’t getting up. Fury got hit on the chin and still went up.
              In the rematch, he also got hit by wilder in the 1st and 2nd round with wilder coming forward and he didn’t even shake.

              Aj is definitely better than wilder in terms of boxing skills, but if he can also beat him he has to prove that one in the ring. Easy to say it until you get hit with the right hand.

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                #37
                You are hung up on everyone loses. Most lose but some don't lose. The reason really excellent fighters usually lose is because they fight past their prime. Heavyweight champion Marciano never lost. Mayweather never lost. Ward never lost. If a boxer just keep fighting well past the age of 30 which usually marks the end of prime then yes they will eventually lose. For instance Spence and Crawford are both wealthy and proven champions and they could retire undefeated but they will probably keep fighting and making money well past their prime and eventually lose. Fury says he will only fight a few more times and then retire. Fury is still fairly young and I don't see any heavyweights fighting now that can beat him in my opinion. I think he can easily have two or three more fights and retire undefeated. If he just keeps fighting for years then of course he will eventually lose.

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