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    A some point unless he retires soon Fury will lose

    No one goes undefeated at Heavy, in fact, those who go undefeated in boxing, in general, are the exception, not the rule. Tyson fury was lucky to escape the first Wilder fight (Although he dominated) without a loss as most ref's see that knockdown and stop it immediately and he as also very lucky the fight against Otto Wallin wasn't stopped again in most circumstances that is stopped due to that cut.

    He's escaped losses by the skin of his teeth twice has been down four times and been on the side of a favourable decision that probably should have gone the other way (John Mcdermott 1). Before his people get carried away a good chance exists that'll he'll lose soon.

    I'm a fan of his and think even with the loss he'll probably escape as the best of his era
    Last edited by nubianpiye; 03-08-2020, 04:31 AM.

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    Originally posted by nubianpiye View Post
    No one goes undefeated at Heavy, in fact, those who go undefeated in boxing, in general, are the exception, not the rule. Tyson fury was lucky to escape the first Wilder fight (Although he dominated) without a loss as most ref's see that knockdown and stop it immediately and he as also very lucky the fight against Otto Wallin wasn't stopped again in most circumstances that is stopped due to that cut.

    He's escaped losses by the skin of his teeth twice has been down four times and been on the side of a favourable decision that probably should have gone the other way (John Mcdermott 1). Before his people get carried away a good chance exists that'll he'll lose soon.

    I'm a fan of his and think even with the loss he'll probably escape as the best of his era
    He's one of my fave fighters but hes getting seriously overrated now after beating bum squad. Tbh I think of some of bum squads past opponents hadn't bought into the myth of wilder they would have got stuck into him and took him out too. He's far from unbeatable.

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      #3
      Originally posted by Madison boxing View Post
      He's one of my fave fighters but hes getting seriously overrated now after beating bum squad. Tbh I think of some of bum squads past opponents hadn't bought into the myth of wilder they would have got stuck into him and took him out too. He's far from unbeatable.
      I think you are right he's a good fighter but everyone loses that's it. We need to accept it

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        #4
        I completely disagree, i just finished watching last nights fights and couldn't help thinking that Fury is just levels above all these bums.

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          #5
          Originally posted by denium View Post
          I completely disagree, i just finished watching last nights fights and couldn't help thinking that Fury is just levels above all these bums.
          He's levels above them. But even then it just takes one shot. You can't have seen many worse cuts than Fury's against Wallin make it the distance?

          He beats Wilder 4/5 I reckon.

          The rest he's 9/10.

          Except for Joshua. A boxer/puncher vs a boxer. Fury still isn't a puncher - even at that huge weight. I think, and have always thought, that AJ is all wrong for Fury. He's not good enough to bully AJ. He'll take too many shots. And if he stays outside he won't have the luxury of only taking a couple of shots like against Wilder - AJ will land more regularly.

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            #6
            He'll get flattened by AJ.

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              #7
              Originally posted by denium View Post
              I completely disagree, i just finished watching last nights fights and couldn't help thinking that Fury is just levels above all these bums.
              My brother watched Fury turn pro and I caught the post fight interview. My brother said his body may look sloppy ( he was very pear shaped and covered in acne ) but he was surprisingly slick and quick. Boxing was his life, and the HW title was his goal. We believed it then and aren’t surprised now. Fury had cardio for days, u notice that after seeing countless heavies gas out over the years. A buddy met Kellerman in a pharmacy in Vegas during the rematch, he asked him who to bet on? Kellerman said bet on Wilder. He called my brother to ask him, he said Kellermans a chump, bet on Fury by KO. He did. I’m sure my brother is proud of getting things right, but the point is he was there at the beginning and hed always give the credit to Fury. He is special. He will lose one day sure, maybe even in a shocker, or a bad cut, it happens. But he got to the mountain top undefeated, even his biggest haters aren’t that surprised.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Toffee View Post
                He's levels above them. But even then it just takes one shot. You can't have seen many worse cuts than Fury's against Wallin make it the distance?

                He beats Wilder 4/5 I reckon.

                The rest he's 9/10.

                Except for Joshua. A boxer/puncher vs a boxer. Fury still isn't a puncher - even at that huge weight. I think, and have always thought, that AJ is all wrong for Fury. He's not good enough to bully AJ. He'll take too many shots. And if he stays outside he won't have the luxury of only taking a couple of shots like against Wilder - AJ will land more regularly.
                Fury is naturally a bigger man than Joshua and now he's with kronk and at his ideal weight, he's only going to get fitter and stronger, yet he's still kept his speed and sharpness.

                I don't see any way Joshua beats him to be honest, he can't outbox Fury on the outside and he can't outfight and bully him inside. You also can't forget that he got dominated and stopped 8 months ago by an unranked opponent, and arguably ran to a decision in the rematch, against an opponent who hadn't even trained.

                Fury walked through Wilder's right hands and Joshua doesn't hit nearly as hard. Joshua is stiff, robotic, comes forward in straight lines, no special effects. Fury will give him an absolute boxing lesson and knock him out late.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Blond Beast View Post
                  My brother watched Fury turn pro and I caught the post fight interview. My brother said his body may look sloppy ( he was very pear shaped and covered in acne ) but he was surprisingly slick and quick. Boxing was his life, and the HW title was his goal. We believed it then and aren’t surprised now. Fury had cardio for days, u notice that after seeing countless heavies gas out over the years. A buddy met Kellerman in a pharmacy in Vegas during the rematch, he asked him who to bet on? Kellerman said bet on Wilder. He called my brother to ask him, he said Kellermans a chump, bet on Fury by KO. He did. I’m sure my brother is proud of getting things right, but the point is he was there at the beginning and hed always give the credit to Fury. He is special. He will lose one day sure, maybe even in a shocker, or a bad cut, it happens. But he got to the mountain top undefeated, even his biggest haters aren’t that surprised.
                  Absolutely, anyone who understands boxing could see that Fury would be a special fighter. The Rogan fight sold him on me.

                  If he carries on fighting for years, then yeah he'll probably lose, everyone does. In my opinion he should fight Joshua and then retire and become a full time mental health ambassador. He's already won every belt in HW boxing, he just needs to become undisputed, then he's completed boxing.

                  If he's contractually obliged to fight Wilder first, then it is what it is, i'll be happy to watch Fury retire him before knocking out AJ and cementing his legacy as one of the greatest fighters of all time.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by denium View Post
                    Fury is naturally a bigger man than Joshua and now he's with kronk and at his ideal weight, he's only going to get fitter and stronger, yet he's still kept his speed and sharpness.

                    I don't see any way Joshua beats him to be honest, he can't outbox Fury on the outside and he can't outfight and bully him inside. You also can't forget that he got dominated and stopped 8 months ago by an unranked opponent, and arguably ran to a decision in the rematch, against an opponent who hadn't even trained.

                    Fury walked through Wilder's right hands and Joshua doesn't hit nearly as hard. Joshua is stiff, robotic, comes forward in straight lines, no special effects. Fury will give him an absolute boxing lesson and knock him out late.
                    We will see.

                    Ruiz was a huge upset - they happen. He gave him a lesson in the rematch. He showed that styles make fights, and he could adapt his style to one that Ruiz couldn't get near. It was the safe play. But rest assured, Joshua can ****. You don't need to have watched much boxing to know that.

                    I wouldn't compare Wilder's shots to Joshua's in a proper boxing match. Wilder has great power when he steps in, but his technique fails him going backwards. Joshua can hit - he has technique. And his hands are fast enough.

                    It would be a much better fight than Wilder.

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