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    #81
    Originally posted by Citizen Koba View Post
    Fs huh?

    But yeah If that's how you read it sure. My efforts here have been entirely about pointing out that's what's needed is a consistent grading scale, so we're all talking about the same thing, not to try to impose my opinion on where Golovkin should rank on anyone else. FWIW even the ranking system I've outlined there is insanely top heavy, cramming something like 98% of all boxers into the bottom two categories - almost logrithmic, but I get that most interest is focused on just a very small part of the overall spectrum.

    Personally I'd Rank GGGs overall career an A using that scale but I ain't claiming any particular objectivity.
    Go off this criteria.

    How many Future HOFamers has ggg beaten?

    How many P4P top 20

    Top 50

    Top 100

    Go off how many guys late in their career them still fighting guys even hard core fans have to rush to google to find out who they are...

    Go to how many divisions belts they’ve won.

    Go to how many fights never happened yet was told we’re going to happen.

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      #82
      Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
      B- is starting to look like the consensus among knowledgeable fans
      Fun fact!

      When GGG chose Rolls as his 41st opponent Dan Rafael even admitted he had to Google him.... I mean your supposed to be A-Side??? Trying build a HOFame career.

      Vanes then Canelo then Rolls


      Sergiy now Simons Says Sesmeta.... That’s a fkn SHT resume!!! I mean outside of a phone book and Walmart stock workers how Else is ggg finding these NO BODIES???

      Then his FANS be like WE GGGood BOYS!!! spank us some more GGG!!!

      Give us that GGGood DIC! We NOT worthy....
      Last edited by Shadoww702; 03-01-2020, 08:22 AM.

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        #83
        Originally posted by Curtis Harper View Post
        He blasted away guys who were C level
        ''Struggled'' with the few guys who were above that
        Faced too many C level guys

        B
        No he blasted away guys that were more D/F level.

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          #84
          Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
          B- is starting to look like the consensus among knowledgeable fans
          Can I rate it a W???? Wilderish??? I mean

          Boogeyman

          Great KO Power (Greatest Puncher HW and MW they say)

          Good/Great chins

          Heart


          But once they fought someone not afraid???? All missing is a beating for GGG. Both resume suks also.

          Throw away Canelo and Fury??? We got Ortiz, Jacobs, and Sergiy? Jacobs/Sergiy better but by how much????

          And Canelo in a 3rd fight is gonna batter GGG and hurt him. Which completes the W-Score
          Last edited by Shadoww702; 03-01-2020, 08:37 AM.

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            #85
            Originally posted by Shadoww702 View Post
            Go off this criteria.

            How many Future HOFamers has ggg beaten?

            How many P4P top 20

            Top 50

            Top 100

            Go off how many guys late in their career them still fighting guys even hard core fans have to rush to google to find out who they are...

            Go to how many divisions belts they’ve won.

            Go to how many fights never happened yet was told we’re going to happen.
            Sure man, post up your grading system with examples of some guys you got in each category just like I did and we can have a discussion on it.

            Where does Periban rank on your A to F scale, or Jurgen Braehmer? What about Kuziemski or Brand? What about Bika or NDam?
            Last edited by Citizen Koba; 03-01-2020, 08:58 AM.

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              #86
              Originally posted by Citizen Koba View Post
              Sure man, post up your grading system with examples of some guys you got in each category just like I did and we can have a discussion on it.

              Where does Periban rank on your A to F scale, or Jurgen Braehmer? What about Kuziemski or Brand? What about Bika or NDam?
              I joke but I have never said GGG can’t fight. I already said he’s a B off your own criteria. The resume is bad. It’s hard to give him an A with and extremely bad resume. No HOFamers under his belt. Jacobs is a Top 20 P4Per or at least top 30. Sergiy top 50.

              Only one getting in HOFame is Canelo out of the 3. Other two will be known as good tough boxers.

              When the division was terrible I wish he would of moved up.

              Heck or fought Saunders/Chavez Jr./Ward but all three never happened over $$$$

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                #87
                Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
                I don't like him but I don't see how you can grade it anything lower than an A+.

                He came from a 3rd world country to a $100 mil dollar deal. He will almost surely be regarded as one of the 5-10 best MW's ever when his career is over. He will make the HOF. He developed a strong fan base as he won. He arguably beat Canelo, who will be a 1st ballot HOF'er at least once and in some people's opinion, which I disagree with, twice.

                Other than the cash cows and HWT champs, I think any professional would give their right arm to have GGG's career.
                fair assessment

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
                  you still making sig-worthy excuses, like the other fanboys... ?
                  Still trying to sniff my farts Scrappy, you pitiful lil fanpup? You nasty...
                  .

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by Shadoww702 View Post
                    I joke but I have never said GGG can’t fight. I already said he’s a B off your own criteria. The resume is bad. It’s hard to give him an A with and extremely bad resume. No HOFamers under his belt. Jacobs is a Top 20 P4Per or at least top 30. Sergiy top 50.

                    Only one getting in HOFame is Canelo out of the 3. Other two will be known as good tough boxers.

                    When the division was terrible I wish he would of moved up.

                    Heck or fought Saunders/Chavez Jr./Ward but all three never happened over $$$$
                    Yeah for real, I ain't mad if someone wants to put him in B based on resume - or at least the complete absence of standout official wins on it - I could probably make a case for an A(A- probably) threr too, but it's subjective and I ain't gonna waste my words. Part of the problem of course is the vagueness of the term Career. Resumes a big part of course but if you start figuring in fame or notoriety and earnings then it's hard to claim GGG ain't made out like a damn bandit with his DAZN deal and 5 years in the P4P rankings.
                    Last edited by Citizen Koba; 03-01-2020, 09:26 AM.

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by Citizen Koba View Post
                      Yeah for real, I ain't mad if someone wants to put him in B based on resume - or at least the complete absence of standout official wins on it - I could probably make a case for an A(A- probably) threr too, but it's subjective and I ain't gonna waste my words. Part of the problem of course is the vagueness of the term Career. Resumes a big part of course but if you start figuring in fame or notoriety and earnings then it's hard to claim GGG ain't made out like a damn bandit with his DAZN deal and 5 years in the P4P rankings.
                      GGG went from rags to riches so that’s an A+

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