What IF Kovalev had said, “I want Canelo, I dare him to fight me.” And Canelo didn’t.

[Thuglife Nelo]

We all know Canelo haters and casuals would have said Canelo a puss-e for not fighting him, “a weight bully...” etc etc (even though smaller than Trout at the time too doe). That’s just the way it is!

I still don’t understand “weakest” LHW whom was rated #1.

The standards for Canelo are so high it’s merely a witch hunt to theorize a way for him to lose.

[Citizen Koba]

We all know Canelo haters and casuals would have said Canelo a puss-e for not fighting him, “a weight bully...” etc etc (even though smaller than Trout at the time too doe). That’s just the way it is!

I still don’t understand “weakest” LHW whom was rated #1.

The standards for Canelo are so high it’s merely a witch hunt to theorize a way for him to lose.

I would have said he shouldn't be calling out fighters smaller than him. I think most would agree with me. Undoubtedly Kovalev has shown his vulnerabilities and he was no longer considered anything close to the force he was through the middle years of the decade but he was still a legit LHW champion.

If someone's of the opinion that Kovalev was the weakest LHW champ at the time though it's hardly controversial given that the other 3 were all unbeaten whilst Sergei had been stopped twice in his last 6.

[DreamFighter]

I would have said he shouldn't be calling out fighters smaller than him. I think most would agree with me. Undoubtedly Kovalev has shown his vulnerabilities and he was no longer considered anything close to the force he was through the middle years of the decade but he was still a legit LHW champion.

If someone's of the opinion that Kovalev was the weakest LHW champ at the time though it's hardly controversial given that the other 3 were all unbeaten whilst Sergei had been stopped twice in his last 6.

seems unfair to kov, seeing as hes the one who has tried to unify and face hot types.

can you say the same of the others -

beterbiev - only just unified after a massive safe streak

adonis - got poleaxed once he faced someone very good, left it too late too old

groz -cant hold onto a title nor win it back

the bivol guy - respectable but nothing above title level yet like kov.

in fact kov has exceeded all of the aboves

Sure Beterbiev is number 1 LHW now but Kov was a few months ago.

[Lopez_Boxing]

Canelos a coward is what they would say. In boxing you have to fight every fighter that calls you out or your scared.

Except for certain fighters like tank davis for example. They are labeled inexperienced champions. Or A side that can fight people om their terms

[Citizen Koba]

seems unfair to kov, seeing as hes the one who has tried to unify and face hot types.

can you say the same of the others -

beterbiev - only just unified after a massive safe streak

adonis - got poleaxed once he faced someone very good, left it too late too old

groz -cant hold onto a title nor win it back

the bivol guy - respectable but nothing above title level yet like kov.

in fact kov has exceeded all of the aboves

Sure Beterbiev is number 1 LHW now but Kov was a few months ago.

Well it's opinion, isn't it? We all got different ways of weighing stuff. Kovalev had proved himself up to a higher level at his peak but on the flip side had shown more vulnerabilities and was widely considered well on the slide.

TBRB had Kovalev ranked behind Bivol and Gvozdyk at the time the Canelo fight was made and I think that's fair enough, at the time I figured Gvozdyk would box past Artur though I think Arturs physicality would be too much for Bivol although I consider Dmitry to be the most technically polished of the 3.

On a seperate note you seem to be of the impression that fighters can just snap their fingers and get who they want in the ring... it just doesn't work that way. In describing Artur's streak as 'safe' there does seem to be the implication of intent there, whereas much of his conflict with GYM revolved around exactly the issue that they weren't getting him the big fights he wanted I think.

[rudy]

:wank:

We all know Canelo haters and casuals would have said Canelo a puss-e for not fighting him, “a weight bully...” etc etc (even though smaller than Trout at the time too doe). That’s just the way it is!

I still don’t understand “weakest” LHW whom was rated #1.

The standards for Canelo are so high it’s merely a witch hunt to theorize a way for him to lose.

[Rip Chudd]

I wouldn't have cared, it's at light heavy, a weight Canelo hadn't competed at nor did he say he could/would take on challenges from there. He nor his team said anything like the 154-168 crap, had he done that and included 175 then there would be some validity to criticism

[kafkod]

I would have said he shouldn't be calling out fighters smaller than him. I think most would agree with me.

I agree with you. Calling out a fighter in a lower division and refusing to even consider a catchweight, then accusing him of ducking when he doesn't immediately accept the challenge is something that no boxer should do.

Which is why the guy who started this thread used to annoy me so much with his insane, obsessive trolling and denigration of GGG for "ducking" Andre Ward.

[DreamFighter]

Well it's opinion, isn't it?

sure but wouldnt you prefer a more informed opinion than a weak one.

[MulaKO]

seems unfair to kov, seeing as hes the one who has tried to unify and face hot types.

can you say the same of the others -

beterbiev - only just unified after a massive safe streak

adonis - got poleaxed once he faced someone very good, left it too late too old

groz -cant hold onto a title nor win it back

the bivol guy - respectable but nothing above title level yet like kov.

in fact kov has exceeded all of the aboves

Sure Beterbiev is number 1 LHW now but Kov was a few months ago.

On which planet was Kovi considered #1 a few months ago
And safety first first about Beterbiev is totally made up
Ffs he only has 15 fights to his credit

Well it's opinion, isn't it? We all got different ways of weighing stuff. Kovalev had proved himself up to a higher level at his peak but on the flip side had shown more vulnerabilities and was widely considered well on the slide.

TBRB had Kovalev ranked behind Bivol and Gvozdyk at the time the Canelo fight was made and I think that's fair enough, at the time I figured Gvozdyk would box past Artur though I think Arturs physicality would be too much for Bivol although I consider Dmitry to be the most technically polished of the 3.

On a seperate note you seem to be of the impression that fighters can just snap their fingers and get who they want in the ring... it just doesn't work that way. In describing Artur's streak as 'safe' there does seem to be the implication of intent there, whereas much of his conflict with GYM revolved around exactly the issue that they weren't getting him the big fights he wanted I think.

Thank you for explaining exactly what was King Artur’s problem with his management team
GYM was trying to keep him bottled but Beterbiev wasn’t taking any of that chit