So I watched a UFC fight for the very first time.... Absolutely horrendous

[PRINCEKOOL]

That's how I used t feel about MMA but I have since changed my mind. Boxing is the first combat sport I fell in love with but if we are honest it is far from representing the chaos that a real fight presents. Real fights don't go 12 rounds and they don't involve a strict rule set where only punching is allowed. MMA actually resembles how unpredictable and chaotic an actual fight can be. The sport as a whole is probably more exciting than boxing is because it is nearly impossible for any fighter to go undefeated their entire careers which happens fairly often in boxing.

Boxing is not trying to be a street fight or a real fight 'Boxing is trying to be boxing' it is a strict form of combat.

All these points are completely useless.

I stated that boxing's history and culture has been one of honor & romance 'Something that Mixed Martial Arts/UFC has never been able capture.

What is the UFC's culture? what defines it? The fans at large seem to be very low level people with very small perception/comprehension. The trend of people wearing Tap-Out T-shirt's and thinking they where solid, was a actually social phenomenon almost 10 years ago.

It is amusing the way people hang on to this line, that UFC is the art of fighting 'Good for you, what is your point?' <<< Low level points and perception.

The UFC has no real in-depth culture or history 'Just a bunch of xenophobic type tough-guys, proclaiming the death of boxing.

Note: People wearing Tap-Out T-shirts, and in general thinking they are solid 'That is ultimately for me what has defined Mixed Martial Arts/UFC's impact on society 'That is it guys, the sport has had its peak'

[Lomadeaux]

Joe summed it up pretty succinctly there.

MMA is the art of fighting, Boxing is the art of punching.

I think Joe has admitted since then how ****** he came off and sounded. This is when everyone thought MMA was going to surpass boxing and it never did.

[WarMaidana]

keep my trend going on twitter, #ufcisajoke

[BoomBapTrap]

keep my trend going on twitter, #ufcisajoke

Not really.

Right now their stars are outshining boxing’s biggest.

Boxing has:
Pacquiao who’s 4 decades deep
Canelo
Mayweather (who’s retired but that’s how dull boxing is rn)
Wilder
AJ

UFC has (which isn’t all mma)
Mcgregor
Khabib
Jon Jones
Stipe Miocic
Amanda Nunez
Masvidal
Nate Diaz
Cowboy Cerrone
Israel Stylebender
And so many more big stars at the moment. All these fighters listed have 1M+ followers on IG.

Where as boxers like Charlo bro’s. have what? 300K?

Errol Spence barely has 600K.
Crawford barely 500K.

And these are supposed to be the stars of boxing currently, and their UFC counterparts are proven to be way more popular and well known.

[man down]

UFC isnt a joke 99% of the time if it goes to a decision the right person gets it. Im sick of boxing being corrupt. Im sick of all these promoters protecting fighters.

[TMLT87]

It’s a bar fight in a cage between low end athletes geared towards white trash fans. No thanks.

For a start this "white trash" stuff is kinda racist tbh. Its funny how quickly and freely it starts slipping out of peoples mouths when MMA comes up. Imagine if whenever boxing was mentioned detractors started claiming its for low income blacks and hispanics. Its honestly just weird and indicative of something underlying that has very little to do with the sports themselves.

Secondly, where the **** do you live if the bars near you are full of jiu jitsu black belts and division 1 wrestlers trying to drunkenly armbar each other?

Thirdly, low end athletes? based on what? could you give any logical reason why Ngannou or the version of Brock that won the title are less athletic than Joshua, Fury or Wilder? Jon jones is less athletic than Usyk? Adesanya and Yoel (or prime Anderson) are less athletic than Beterbiev and Bivol? Usman or prime GSP are less athletic than Canelo? i'm not seeing it at all tbh.

[TMLT87]

Not really.

Right now their stars are outshining boxing’s biggest.

Boxing has:
Pacquiao who’s 4 decades deep
Canelo
Mayweather (who’s retired but that’s how dull boxing is rn)
Wilder
AJ

UFC has (which isn’t all mma)
Mcgregor
Khabib
Jon Jones
Stipe Miocic
Amanda Nunez
Masvidal
Nate Diaz
Cowboy Cerrone
Israel Stylebender
And so many more big stars at the moment. All these fighters listed have 1M+ followers on IG.

Where as boxers like Charlo bro’s. have what? 300K?

Errol Spence barely has 600K.
Crawford barely 500K.

And these are supposed to be the stars of boxing currently, and their UFC counterparts are proven to be way more popular and well known.

I think its pretty even right now in terms of stars honestly. Conor is the biggest star currently but hes been extremely inactive for the last 3 years. Jones is a good draw but a step or two below Canelo or Joshua. Khabib is kinda hard to gauge because his popularity is mostly in Russia and ****** countries where tv/PPV numbers arent trackable. The other UFC names (Stipe, Izzy etc) are in the same group as a bunch of boxers imo - Spence, Crawford, Loma, GGG, Wilder and all that.

I dont think IG following is the be all, end all of measuring popularity because the UFC just has much better engagement online than boxing does (look how many more views UFC content tends to do on Youtube) but when it comes down to it it doesnt tend to translate into actual tv ratings and ppv buys. Stipes PPV numbers are around the same as Spences for example. And when it comes to PPV numbers bear in mind that the UFC brand itself kinda sells on its own to a degree. I'd say theres a a baseline of around 100-150k who will buy practically any UFC ppv regardless of whos on it, you could put the exact same main event on a Bellator PPV instead and it wouldnt do half the number. Its a unique situation that boxing doesnt have. PPV buys are entirely tied to star power in boxing rather than what promotion is putting it out.

[Johnwoo8686]

Boxing is not trying to be a street fight or a real fight 'Boxing is trying to be boxing' it is a strict form of combat.

All these points are completely useless.

I stated that boxing's history and culture has been one of honor & romance 'Something that Mixed Martial Arts/UFC has never been able capture.

What is the UFC's culture? what defines it? The fans at large seem to be very low level people with very small perception/comprehension. The trend of people wearing Tap-Out T-shirt's and thinking they where solid, was a actually social phenomenon almost 10 years ago.

It is amusing the way people hang on to this line, that UFC is the art of fighting 'Good for you, what is your point?' <<< Low level points and perception.

The UFC has no real in-depth culture or history 'Just a bunch of xenophobic type tough-guys, proclaiming the death of boxing.

Note: People wearing Tap-Out T-shirts, and in general thinking they are solid 'That is ultimately for me what has defined Mixed Martial Arts/UFC's impact on society 'That is it guys, the sport has had its peak'

No offense but you sound ignorant about the sport of mixed martial arts. What is this line about "honor and romance?" No one watches fights to see romance. They want to see two men (or women) compete in a physical contest to prove which one is superior.

You are speaking about mixed martial arts the way some old timer used to talk about that sport ten years ago. I used to think that way as well until I educated myself further on the sport. MMA started about as a contest between disciplines. People wanted to know how a kickboxer would do against a wrestler or how a boxer would do against someone who does Muay Thai. That is is how MMA got it's start.

Boxing is a sport but if you talk to the average boxing fan they think it's an actual "fight." You have guys like Larry Merchant calling Floyd Mayweatehr the best boxer of this generation but Manny Pacquiao the best "fighter" of this generation. No, the best actual fighters are the guys in the UFC because they actually "fight" and not just box.

[PRINCEKOOL]

No offense but you sound ignorant about the sport of mixed martial arts. What is this line about "honor and romance?" No one watches fights to see romance. They want to see two men (or women) compete in a physical contest to prove which one is superior.

You are speaking about mixed martial arts the way some old timer used to talk about that sport ten years ago. I used to think that way as well until I educated myself further on the sport. MMA started about as a contest between disciplines. People wanted to know how a kickboxer would do against a wrestler or how a boxer would do against someone who does Muay Thai. That is is how MMA got it's start.

Boxing is a sport but if you talk to the average boxing fan they think it's an actual "fight." You have guys like Larry Merchant calling Floyd Mayweatehr the best boxer of this generation but Manny Pacquiao the best "fighter" of this generation. No, the best actual fighters are the guys in the UFC because they actually "fight" and not just box.

Just face the facts mate, Mixed Martial Arts/UFC has had its peak 'You can yabber on about being solid, or being a REAL fighter etc The bottom line is that the sport has had its peak, and during that peak it did not swallow boxing or have anywhere near the cultural/societal impact of boxing historically 'A sport which was born out of Honor and Romance, I don't need to expand upon that 'History has done that for me'

Now put your TapOut T-Shirt on and F***K off.

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i like boxing more than mma but lol @ calling it a civilized gentlemans sport

its a sport of rejects. human fight dogs. half can barely read.