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    #31
    Good enough apparently, as he won by KO, lol.

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      #32
      Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
      I said that 2 years ago when everyone was going nuts over AJ, insisting that he was on a different level to Wilder... some of the replies I got were hilarious, in light of what happened to AJ

      my issue is... Fury got caught TWICE

      the rematch will be very interesting

      to critics of that fight... the dude is inexperienced, period... learning on the job, AND adapting to top level opponents... and, yet.... stayed calm as ice, did not panic once... stuck to the gameplan, and delivered

      that is extremely difficult, and shows good mental strength and faith/self belief

      if Wilder has his mental game in check... and lets face it, the top 2 inches is what counts in boxing... then everyone is on serious notice

      verdict: thats a killer right there

      in saying that... it is waaaaay too early to start mentioning Wilder among the greats, that talk is just ****** at this point

      the ATG killers at the top of that list faced PLENTY of guys with a right hand... they were a lot tougher than Ortiz, and they were very well-rounded... but Wilder is live against anyone

      my pick is... King Fury for the win, possibly after another trip to the canvas... but yea, not as confident as I was last time

      one... little... mistake... lose focus for... one... second... **** !
      When you say he is inexperienced are you talking about 43 fight Deontay Wilder?

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        #33
        Knocking your opponent silly is never a bad performance I dont care if it was on the 12th rnd after loosing 11 other rnds.

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          #34
          Sorry but I dont subscribe to that nonsense that he is intentionally losing rounds. He already fought someone who survived his power and if not for a biased decision would have rightfully lost.

          Yes he has power but if he is consistently being outboxed then it also means he is taking more punishment than he needs to, in the long ru somebody with real power will out-box him and will ko him (he has been paired so far with relatively safe opponents).

          Imagine a young prime Vlad fighting Wilder, he would control the fight and break down Wilder.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Joe Beamish View Post
            Wilder did 100% what he wanted to do. He set up Ortiz.

            Good performance.
            Yeah, probably this. It's just subjective.

            Wilder did 100% what he wanted to do.
            or
            Wilder did 100% the ONLY thing he can do.

            Either way, he got the KO. Did anyone really think it was going to be different?

            Ortiz's movement leading up to the KO was terrible or Wilder made the adjustment? I'm not sure. Either way, Wilder saw the opportunity when Ortiz inadvertently closed the distance on the side of the ring.

            Considering the surface area that Wilder had (Ortiz had been keeping the left high up protecting) to hit, it was great (or lucky) accuracy

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              #36
              Seemed to me that the fight went exactly like Wilder planned. Patient for a few rounds, launch the missile, game over. Exactly like I predicted, even down to 10 seconds before Ortiz got KOd, I told my wife he was done and then boom .

              Wilder didn't really look good, but he rarely does in fights that go longer than a round. But, he did what he does best and executed his plan perfectly.

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                #37
                Yes, he was losing rounds.

                Yes, Ortiz fought well.

                But, a schooling?

                Nah.

                You wanna say Wilder was cautious and was thinking a fight ahead, do that.

                You wanna say Wilder was content to allow Ortiz to work and expend energy, that's fine too.

                The truth is, Wilder did turn things up a little in the 7th and that's coincidentally when he stopped Ortiz.

                Make of it what you will.

                Wilder is still undefeated and has still put every man he's ever faced on the canvas.
                Last edited by koolkc107; 11-28-2019, 11:56 AM.

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                  #38
                  I thought his performance was superb. He made several adjustments from the first time he fought Luis Ortiz like avoiding the exchanges while playing the role of counter puncher.

                  He allowed Ortiz to lead in order to open him up, build King Kong's confidence and make him vulnerable while setting him up for the knockout victory.

                  Moreover, he didn't absorb anywhere near the amount of punishment he absorbed in their first bout in which he was nearly stopped in the seventh round.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by DaNeutral. View Post
                    When you say he is inexperienced are you talking about 43 fight Deontay Wilder?



                    I am talking about the 30-fight version mentioned earlier

                    as well as this version

                    the dude is obviously still adapting/refining his game

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by koolkc107 View Post
                      Yes, he was losing rounds.

                      Yes, Ortiz fought well.

                      But, a schooling?

                      Nah.

                      You wanna say Wilder was cautious and was thinking a fight ahead, do that.

                      You wanna say Wilder was content to allow Ortiz to work and expend energy, that's fine too.

                      The truth is, Wilder did turn things up a little in the 7th and that's coincidentally when he stopped Ortiz.

                      Make of it what you will.

                      Wilder is still undefeated and has still put every man he's ever faced on the canvas.




                      this ^^

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