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    #21
    Yes, bad and good. I have not seen the fight but losing almost every round to Ortiz is bad. I did see replays of the KO punch and I think it was the hardest punch I have ever seen and I have watched boxing forever. Very good, in fact a great punch.

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      #22
      Originally posted by blitted_master View Post
      Wilder isn't going to outpoint anyone on the elite level. This is realistically the only way he's going to win fights, by stoppage (or robbery, like the Fury fight). All but two of his fights have ended by KO so it's been working for him very well. Fury's the only guy I see capable of beating Wilder. Joshua is too chinny and would go to sleep. Ruiz is too short and doesn't have the reach to go toe-to-toe with Wilder. Ortiz has tried twice and did well, but ultimately failed. None of the other heavyweights are worth mentioning at this point.




      I said that 2 years ago when everyone was going nuts over AJ, insisting that he was on a different level to Wilder... some of the replies I got were hilarious, in light of what happened to AJ

      my issue is... Fury got caught TWICE

      the rematch will be very interesting

      to critics of that fight... the dude is inexperienced, period... learning on the job, AND adapting to top level opponents... and, yet.... stayed calm as ice, did not panic once... stuck to the gameplan, and delivered

      that is extremely difficult, and shows good mental strength and faith/self belief

      if Wilder has his mental game in check... and lets face it, the top 2 inches is what counts in boxing... then everyone is on serious notice

      verdict: thats a killer right there

      in saying that... it is waaaaay too early to start mentioning Wilder among the greats, that talk is just ****** at this point

      the ATG killers at the top of that list faced PLENTY of guys with a right hand... they were a lot tougher than Ortiz, and they were very well-rounded... but Wilder is live against anyone

      my pick is... King Fury for the win, possibly after another trip to the canvas... but yea, not as confident as I was last time

      one... little... mistake... lose focus for... one... second... **** !

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        #23
        Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
        Boxing has always been the ultimate outcome based sport. You used to get credit for winning. Nowadays we have a bunch of "fans" that put more emphasis on everything but the outcome. Then if the outcome is different than what they hoped for, they question the legitimacy of the fight.

        Wilder was getting outboxed, he was down on the cards, and BOOM, ended the fight. His performance was outstanding because he managed to win a fight by KO that he was clearly losing. If you know Wilder and Ortiz, the fight played out as expected given Ortiz is the more technically skilled fighter.




        this, here ^^

        great points

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          #24
          I’d call it a winning performance.

          Some of you want a Hall of Fame for winning rounds before getting KTFO.

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            #25
            I think it was a good performance.

            He didn't take any damage really and he got the knock out victory.

            Ortiz's style as a southpaw Cuban with power is gonna be murder for anybody, which is why Wilder's the only guy who's fought him so far, so I don't expect him to look that badly against anybody else (save Fury).

            Everyone else in the heavyweight division is pretty easy to hit and with his athleticism, he will hit them.

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              #26
              ggg lost one round against brook before ko'ing him and was criticized by same people who think it was a good performance by wilder. you really can't make this up.

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                #27
                Wilder used to delude himself into believing he could box. After the lesson Fury gave him, he's not even bothering now.

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                  #28
                  - -I'm too embarrassed to pick on him any more. He gets beat up enough already in the ring.

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                    #29
                    I don't think he was trying to win (by Ko or otherwise) early on because his opponent was overmatched. We don't have enough information.

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                      #30
                      I had it 4-2 Ortiz so don't know from where this outboxing narrative is coming from. Also, Wilder's set ups were pretty easy to see

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