Comments Thread For: How Fury-Wallin Was Influenced By ESPN's Intrusion

[Charlie Kelly]

Here's the video (2 minutes 41 seconds)

[elfag]

If they made a new rule where the commission can watch slow motion replays and overrule the ref's decision then they need to inform both the ref and both corners.

Do they do this chit in any other sport?

Could you imagine in baseball or basketball them overrulling the ref, making a new call and not informing the ref or either team but everyone just finds out at the end of the game the ruling?

Why is boxing this ass backwards.

[-Hyperion-]

Good on Tessitore....seems like the writer wanted the fighters to pay for the commissions ****up.

[methodcal]

I think the issue is that the ESPN team overstepped their boundaries by informing the "house" fighter when that is not their job.
Davison was going to stop the fight to prevent an already nasty cut from getting much worse.
What is ESPN did is no different than a trainer coaching his fighter when the action is stopped to put a mouthpiece back.
If the corner can't coach, how is it justified that the broadcast team can in essence give advice to a corner?
Regardless, I don't expect a rematch next year.
Wilder will target that cut which will not be healed by February......

Totally agree.... No way they should have said anything. Now commentators can inform there guy on what there saying in the other corner is what's next.... No way is this should happen. I'd love Paulie's take.

[methodcal]

From the article: "What took place was the equivalent of leaking the running official scores to a corner during any course of a fight."

You and the guy who wrote that are missing a very important point.

The corners are not supposed to be told how the judges are scoring the fight.

But they are supposed to be told whether a cut was caused by a punch or an accidental foul.

The ESPN team realised that Fury's corner had been given incorrect information about that by the referee, so they passed the correct information on to them.

They didn't break any rules by doing that. On the contrary, they helped the commission to apply the rules properly and fairly.

So who makes it ESPN business to relay that info. Did the commission tell ESPN to relay it?

[methodcal]

all you need to do in order to determine if this was right or wrong is ask yourself one question:

Had it been Wallin who got cut, would ESPN still have taken such a keen interest in what information the corner had?

I'm guessing they would have not.....

And this question everyone here knows is a definitive No........ But ta rahhh......

[JLC]

The boxer with the cut should absolutely know anyway. Fury should have been informed at the earliest time by the panel who made the decision (rightly so) to declare it a punch. Then a boxer can decide to go for broke or not. This needs to be enforced now into boxing.

I agree 100%. If ESPN didn’t tell him, and the fight was stopped and he lost off of misinformation I think that would be 10x worse than what actually happened.

[methodcal]

Not a fan of how ESPN handled the Davison corner interview, but it was good that across the board – to viewers and corners alike – the cut was emphasised as being caused from a punch.

I also liked how Fury bit down hard and started hurling combos like he fucking meant it. That's a side of him I've wanted to see for 10yrs, in amongst the herky-jerky style that he loves so much.

So did he bite down and started punching harder because of the new info he received..... We know on live TV he and his corner thought headbutt..... So did that info make him pick up the pace? I think so cause I think he was thinking it would get stopped from AH but new info means oh ****........ Let's go..... That's the issue.....

[PBR Streetgang]

I think the issue is that the ESPN team overstepped their boundaries by informing the "house" fighter when that is not their job.

This is the issue. The question I pose is "Would ESPN have been so quick to provide that information to Joey Gamache if it was Wallin who had suffered the cut?" Unfortunately, I'm not so sure they would have.

I have seen plenty of fights where a corner has stopped a fight they erroneously thought would go to the cards or end in disqualification only to find out the ruling was something less than ideal for their fighter. In those fights, the broadcast didn't advise the corners of the rules or ruling of the commission.

Corners should be informed in a timely and accurate manner by the commission and the referee and that information sharing should be balanced and equal to both corners. By ESPN interjecting themselves and providing information that the commission should have provided, they expose themselves to scrutiny and criticisms, especially since this action benefited the house fighter.

I'm not sure if it was Tessitore who made that call or the producers in his ear but someone decided to.

[kafkod]

So who makes it ESPN business to relay that info. Did the commission tell ESPN to relay it?

Did the commission tell Tony Weeks to relay incorrect information to Fury's corner?

One of the ESPN team went over to the commission and asked them what the correct ruling was.

The commission gave ESPN that info.

Did they also tell them not to pass it on to to Fury's corner?