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    #21
    Which case of corruption was more blatant, when ESPN helped fat Fury to beat Uber driver Wallin or when referee helped Beyonce Wildher to recover after he got badly hurt by 70 years old Ortiz?

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      #22
      Originally posted by Mooshashi View Post
      So would it be fine with you if a commentator took a peek at a judges scorecard and revealed the result to a trainer?

      ESPN was WAY over the line. It is the job of ref to pass on commission or Doctor info, not the TV people.

      Would it be ok for ESPN to tell one corner what the other corner was telling their fighter? Where does it end?
      From the article: "What took place was the equivalent of leaking the running official scores to a corner during any course of a fight."

      You and the guy who wrote that are missing a very important point.

      The corners are not supposed to be told how the judges are scoring the fight.

      But they are supposed to be told whether a cut was caused by a punch or an accidental foul.

      The ESPN team realised that Fury's corner had been given incorrect information about that by the referee, so they passed the correct information on to them.

      They didn't break any rules by doing that. On the contrary, they helped the commission to apply the rules properly and fairly.
      Last edited by kafkod; 09-18-2019, 04:04 PM.

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        #23
        Originally posted by kafkod View Post
        From the article: "What took place was the equivalent of leaking the running official scores to a corner during any course of a fight."

        You and the guy who wrote that are missing a very important point.

        The corners are not supposed to be told how the judges are scoring the fight. Giving them that information would be breaking the rules of the governing commission.

        But they are supposed to be told whether a cut was caused by a punch or an accidental foul. The ESPN team realised that Fury's corner had been given incorrect information about that by the referee, so they passed the correct information on to them.

        They didn't break any rules by doing that. On the contrary, they helped the commission to apply the rules properly and fairly.
        No. No, and hail no! WTF are you people on today? State commissions are set up to be impartial and non-partisan. In theory. The workers are on state payrolls. They have powers (in most cases) to ban boxers, fine boxers and/or corner men, etc. ESPN personnel are not state hires, have no powers to ban or impose penalties, and do not have to be impartial. In fact they are paid to be partial to the boxer under contract to the channel ffs!

        Jesus H. Christ this would be like someone showing up at Congressional Hearing, reading Senators notes and telling the testifier what the questions are going to be asked of him!

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          #24
          Originally posted by kafkod View Post
          From the article: "What took place was the equivalent of leaking the running official scores to a corner during any course of a fight."

          You and the guy who wrote that are missing a very important point.

          The corners are not supposed to be told how the judges are scoring the fight.

          But they are supposed to be told whether a cut was caused by a punch or an accidental foul.

          The ESPN team realised that Fury's corner had been given incorrect information about that by the referee, so they passed the correct information on to them.

          They didn't break any rules by doing that. On the contrary, they helped the commission to apply the rules properly and fairly.

          Now you know you just made that up lol. They are not paid by the commission and the commission pays people that help them apply the rules.

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            #25
            Tony Weeks and the commision should send a letter of thanks to ESPN for saving them a great embarrassment.

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              #26
              Originally posted by MDPopescu View Post
              ... does the article claim that Fury should have been left in the dark of the commission's official ruling?
              No, it outlines that the TV network and it's broadcast team should not be the conduit for delivering information to corners.

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                #27
                Originally posted by Mooshashi View Post
                No. No, and hail no! WTF are you people on today? State commissions are set up to be impartial and non-partisan. In theory. The workers are on state payrolls. They have powers (in most cases) to ban boxers, fine boxers and/or corner men, etc. ESPN personnel are not state hires, have no powers to ban or impose penalties, and do not have to be impartial. In fact they are paid to be partial to the boxer under contract to the channel ffs!

                Jesus H. Christ this would be like someone showing up at Congressional Hearing, reading Senators notes and telling the testifier what the questions are going to be asked of him!
                Your first paragraph is irrelevant, your second is just wrong. What the ESPN team did was nothing remotely like the scenario you described there.

                Ask yourself these two questions, and think about the answers:

                Is the testifier in a senate hearing supposed to be told by anybody what questions the senators are going to ask him/her?

                Was Fury's corner supposed to be told whether his cut was caused by a punch or an accidental foul?

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                  #28
                  The officials did mess up by not telling the fighters/corners themselves though.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by thabanga510 View Post
                    Now you know you just made that up lol. They are not paid by the commission and the commission pays people that help them apply the rules.
                    So what?

                    Is nobody allowed to do anything unless somebody else is paying them to do it?

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                      #30
                      Tyson’s Cherry is opened. Wilder will have a good time. I think the fight is off bc fury will never fight as brave. Ppl will use same GGG excuse when Spence beat Brook

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