Comments Thread For: Fury's Dubious Decision & Why Wilder Won't Accept Arum's Offer

[P4P Forever]

Joshua had the IBF title before the WBA title and was granted the exemption to fight for the WBA super title against Klitschko instead of the mandatory.

Ortiz chose to sign with Haymon first (March 2017), then claimed a thumb injury when it was time for him to get tested. He was supposed to fight in April of that year but backed out due to that scheduled test.

These people continue to spread the myth of Luis Ortiz.

Yes, the man the myth (Ortizzzzzzzzz) whooo whoo. So where you got the myth on your heavy weight list. like #8 #10 #20. I assume you don't think much of Ortiz, right he's nothing more than a myth.

[SchoolTheseCats]

I think Arums words have more impact and legitamacy, a report isn't a fact its announcing news that's spread. ESPN isn't in negotiations that's the network. Arum is, in no way did he say Wilder must sign a 5 fight deal to fight fury ,you guys are spreading lies. Ha

Your spin and trolling needs more work pal

[P4P Forever]

Your dealing with a new phenomena. basically a lot here are fans of various promoters. So they treat the promoter as the fighter... I don't quite get it myself, all I know is that King and Arum have been hated as long as I can remember and here comes one of them to screw things up again. I really wish these men would take their golden years and be with family and stop destroying the legacy these fighters need!

When Fury is old and grey hes going to be very sad if him and Wilder have to look at each other and AJ and lament what might have been.

By the way this same group hate the lineal title. Because the lineal belongs to the fans and is based on a wholesome premise> that the best need to fight the best and win to be considered the best. This group wants more governing bodies, like the British Boxing council that is best known for trying to stop one of the best heavyweight matches in years (Chisora Haye), and more promoters to figure out how to create an intractable situation so no great fights get made.

Its a horrible situation...I was just getting comfortable not having heard terrible Bob's name in so long when there the bastard is... doing what he does best.

Be on the lookout for one Robbie the Rat Barrett. He is rumored to write love letters to hearn addressing him as "Tommy Twinkle Toes" and threatening to have a go "on the cobbles" with anyone who does not think Hearn is the second coming og Jesus. He also has a ***ual attraction to AJ.

That's quit a phenomena here, kind of taken over the entire site. More talk about promoters and TV networks, then the fighters or fights them self's. I'm ok to agree to disagree but the weaseling and twisting of facts and down right lies & retarted behavior at times is disappointing.
Not sure I'm going to post on here much more. Its all posturing and manipulation. Some folks seem to know there boxing but is not really about boxing here.
I'm over the he said she said crap. Im a fan and want the best match ups. I'm also a realist and relies with the current structure quality match ups are harder and harder to line up.
People use to have there own opinion now its those Wilder fans suck, Hearn is so proper. Top Rank screwed us again thanx Bob etc.. What you think Mayweather is not TBE your a hater posing under an Alt account.
Some fool wrote they don't think Mayweather ever lost a single round as a pro! Sure and I have a nice shiny bridge to sell you. So bias they simply make up anything to push there point even if what they say is counter to there own point, all the while exposing themselves as an uneducated fools, that can't see anyone else's point of you cuz they know everything. So tuff on here with there weak ass insults. No unity what so ever in anyway it appears, just the way the powers that be want it. Transcended fully onto Boxing Scene.
I think many are here to meet a preset agenda that has everything to do with boxing politics and nothing to do with boxing. Sad, so sad ,a sign of the times. As some of us found out recently, CBS is the owner of Boxing Scene, so go figure.
Espn playing, Skipper and DAZN via last min cancellation of Joshua/ Miller interviews. Are they playing Dazn or them self. Ill keep a eye out for that Robbie fellow I've heard his name mentioned before. Just waiting for someone to start posting as Elisa Lam on here, won't surprised me.

[factsarenice]

It funny reading posts like this that are written with complete twisting of facts and opinions that couldn’t be farther from the truth

How is Fury a bigger draw ? For the fight to make the most $ itd have to be PPV States . In what fantasy is Fury a bigger draw then Wilder in the States ( who might be currently the most popular American Boxer ) . People bought the first PPV because of Wilder. How many times has Fury fights even been broadcast in the States maybe 2’, his
Fight against Cunningham on daytime NBC and the Klit fight ,a fight that was widely viewed by many as the most boring fight
They’ve ever watched. Yet somehow to a few ******s Fury is the draw

Wilder fighting Fury whos the lineal, unbeaten , prime and considered the best technical HW boxer at HW and who is 1 of 3 Uncrowned Kings at HW is the definition of a cherry pick. How is this not obvious

Wilder must be the coward in this situation for being the one who actually wanted a rematch and was negotiating in good faith it’s not like he still had his strap or was the the other guy had his soul leave his body in the 12th , why would any negativity be written towards the fighter who literally avoided and ran away from a rematch when a 50/50 deal was on the table in a fight most think he won. These aren’t the actions of a fighter who believes he won or didn’t have his self confidence taken and knocked out of him in the 12th

Anyone who isnt a product of ****** cant possibly believe that Fury’s actions from the dishonest negotiations and signing to Top Rank and clearly avoiding the rematch can’t be portrayed as a positive , no matter how some want to spin it like Fury the man who made all these noble brave honourable moves but the reality is all his decisions regarding this situation are anything but that

That's a long insanely inaccurate post. You know better than to go full ******. Forest Gump, slow. Yes! He seemed ******ed But he charmed the pants off Nixon and won a ping pong competition...That ain't ******ed. See what I'm saying here?

[factsarenice]

Wilder owns his show.

Between the money that Showtime is already set to back Wilder with, the increased value of the UK rights with the ITV deal, and Wilder continuing to grow as a ticket seller in his markets (Wilder still has room to sellout Barclays), you're drastically understating the amount of money that's there for Wilder off of PPV, lol.

Fury went to where the money was better and Wilder has little if any PPV draw without a real opponent on the other end.

For the record, Wilder couldn't fill an arena in England for free..

[factsarenice]

Your spin and trolling needs more work pal

Let me clarify.. Arum wants to bring Wilder, who is not signed to a promoter, to ESPN and have him fight the rematch with Fury in the fall on pay-per-view following interim bouts for both on ESPN+ this summer.

That's just a fact.

[factsarenice]

Yes, the man the myth (Ortizzzzzzzzz) whooo whoo. So where you got the myth on your heavy weight list. like #8 #10 #20. I assume you don't think much of Ortiz, right he's nothing more than a myth.

Ortiz would be great if he was 10 years younger.

[Phenom]

What the WBC do is crucial and after Sulaiman's statement the other day saying the fighters "owe it to the fans", you would think the pressure would be immense .. But will they enforce?? I'm not certain at all now but i think raising the purse rate for fury to 40% is telling

Purse bid was 60% to champion 40% to Fury since they called it and Fury has a 50% on the table right now and he went to Arum anyway WBC have no control over Fury they can't enforce anything on him

[Phenom]

Let me clarify.. Arum wants to bring Wilder, who is not signed to a promoter, to ESPN and have him fight the rematch with Fury in the fall on pay-per-view following interim bouts for both on ESPN+ this summer.

That's just a fact.

Wilder is with PBC Arum knows full well he won't get to promote Wilder because they tried this before Eddie Hearn tried it too last September and didn't work for him

[factsarenice]

Well for all the people that kept saying the five fight deal offered to wilder to have to fury rematch espn just reported it also

You are repeating what two irrelevant idiots on youtube said and even they admit its rumor.

GOT PROOF...BRING IT.