Comments Thread For: Fury's Dubious Decision & Why Wilder Won't Accept Arum's Offer

[factsarenice]

I get what you are saying...but Wilder isn't the only factor here. The most important factor is Fury, who is under no obligation to subject himself to a purse bid. Recall, Bob has already stated that he doesn't want the fight next. So if they are committed to an interim fight, why then would the WBC continue with the purse bid?

Bingo, you just spelled it out.

[KTFOKING]

Correction: Showtime does not have rights to a rematch. Wilder is not tied to any network, period.

Idec mentioned that and Arum commented on it saying that's what he has been told but he doesn't know for sure and doesn't think they do. So it is unclear to the extent they have rights to the rematch, or if they do at all.

[factsarenice]

Everyone's ducking Wilder until he ages a couple years and loses some of his explosiveness. I wanted Wilder to prove without a doubt from anyone that he is the best. Unfortunately, I suppose this acknowledgment from Fury that he wants no part of Deontay is the closest we'll get to that. Boxing can't get out of its own way.

Good news is: From now until Wilder ages, he is the king of the heavyweight division. If the other two kings are too scared to even step in the ring with you until you get old, you're the king.

This is Wilder's era. Enjoy the couple years left. If they beat him when he's old, it'll ring hollow just like May-Pac. Prime for prime, I'll take Deontay over any heavyweight in history. That power is unseen in the heavyweight division. It's not to be messed with.

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You missed it, Wilder got beat but they ruled it a draw anyway, he kept his belt.

It must have happened when you were on vacation but that's cool. You can always edit your post.

[Scipio2009]

Where did I say he has to give Arum five fights? You are the one spinning. Read all my post along with others who are posting the same thing. You would see everyone of us use the word “No string” “No option” “One fight deal” etc No one is wanting or claiming Wilder has to do that.

The article states, pretty clearly I might add, that Arum's offer to Wilder was for an interim fight on ESPN+, the Fury rematch on ESPN PPV, two tickover fights, and another Fury fight on ESPN PPV.

Since the Top Rank deal came out of nowhere, Arum has talked up the May date being of no consequence (staging a May PPV after his April PPV flops likely wasn't something ESPN was ready to do), Fury still needing to get his proper value (when we now know that Fury was looking at a 50/50 share on the rematch with the WBC champion), the rematch still needing more time to build up (while also just so happening to deliver two more of those owed ESPN+ dates with good fighters), and also about how much money ESPN has (as if Showtime/CBS was skimping on money).

Fury signed over his next 5 fights to Top Rank (on a 2US/1UK rotation, we may end up with 4 US fights for Tyson Fury on the deal).

If you have an article where Arum states that he's sent an offer to have the rematch next, share it.

[hitking]

So basically, Fury and Arum got together and had a heart to heart. Fury knows that he fought about as well as he could in the first fight, and still ended up nearly unconscious. He knows Wilder fought about as bad as he could fight. And was still at least Tyson’s equal. So now Fury don’t want that work again.

[Scipio2009]

Good luck to that, am sure some fans would support that. Hope a lot don’t.

Gotta make lemonade, man.
Cost of Fury walking away from 50/50 on the rematch.

[hitking]

You missed it, Wilder got beat but they ruled it a draw anyway, he kept his belt.

It must have happened when you were on vacation but that's cool. You can always edit your post.

I must have been on vacation too. Because I’ve never seen Wilder lose a professional boxing match.

[MELLOMAN007]

Why would Fury be fearful? We all saw Fury make Wilder look ****** for 12 rounds.

Hard to make someone look ****** for 12 rounds when you are on your back unconscious. Some of you guys romanticize how the fight actually went. You need to ask Fury, Arum, and Warren why they refused a 50/50 rematch. Fear is the factor. Hear me out on this. Why would you demand a rematch and when it is in your grasp, you tuck tail and run to Arum? He already has a promoter and were about to run back a very successful fight. If they were not afraid, they would have taken the money and "make Wilder look ******" again right? After that, you can go do your shady dealings with Arum and at least have an actual belt to try to lure better fighters over to ESPN.

[Scipio2009]

"I'll assess their positions, understand the situation, and from there we'll determine the steps to take," Sulaiman added.

"A purse bid's possible. It's their willingness to participate in the bout (that's important); then we'll make a ruling. They might ask for additional time.

"Whenever a fight's been ordered by an organisation it's most likely to happen. - WBC Prez

Does anyone think the WBC will do anything about this?? I mean, they came out and said the fight is "owed to the fans"... If Wilder flatly refuses, are the WBC just going to renege on any purse bids and keep him champion???... that would look awful after what they've said, i don't put it past them though

Wilder is WBC champion; if the talks are now ****ed, the WBC will immediately call for the bids.

If Fury walks away from the fight (bid only gives him 40% after he's already balked at 50/50, and I doubt that Bob Arum is going to put up $40m+ to secure a one-off fight for a fighter that they just committed $100m over 5 fights to), the WBC moves on to their mandated fight (Wilder-Breazeale), camps have 30 days to hammer out the deal and ~120 days to stage the fight (basically before July).

Not that difficult.

[todisday]

You missed it, Wilder got beat but they ruled it a draw anyway, he kept his belt.

It must have happened when you were on vacation but that's cool. You can always edit your post.

You mean Fury got KOed?