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    #51
    Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF View Post
    Very few thought Povetkin could win. At one point, Joshua was a 25 to 1 betting favorite. Talk to any expert in Vegas and they'll tell you the odds would be closer in an Ortiz fight.
    BS, just checked AJ was the favorite at only 1/9 with 4/11 odds for stoppage finish. Povetkin is also currently ranked higher by boxrec by 3 places, I don't think the bookies will buy into his being avoided story as much as you Wilder fanboys. He good but he's not that good.

    I wouldn't be surprised if Povetkin would be slight favorite of the two fought.

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      #52
      Originally posted by NEETzsche View Post
      Joshua vs Whyte would sell very well, might be his biggest payday to date
      ... You might know better than me...

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        #53
        Originally posted by Jax teller View Post
        BS


        Money has been coming in on both sides, however, with Joshua reaching a whopping -2500 at one point and Povetkin stretching as high as +1450.

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          #54
          AJ vs Ortiz is a decent fight, it's not this huge test that some are making it out to be. The reason he was regarded as a threat to Wilder was because of Wilder's extremely sloppy boxing and the fact that his best opponent till date was Stiverne, Flipping Stiverne. Joshua has already beaten guys as good as Ortiz and even better. When you factor that Ortiz got knocked out by Wilder and outside of Jennings never faced any real competition He'd still be something like a 15/1 or 20/1 underdog.

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            #55
            These brits are blind fans sucking AJ's d*ck. Im an AJ fan but he is avoiding threats lately. Ortiz is a threats and his fanboys want to protect AJ

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              #56
              What you are saying is BS. AJ was the A side and than guy with most of the belts and most of the recognition as the best heavyweight in the world over and above Wilder and Fury before they fought each other. Now that Fury and Wilder fought to a draw AJ is suddenly an outsider who has to fight Wilder's leftover to stay relevant ? You are in a fantasy world on this. AJ is still the A side and the man with most of the titles. AJ will still make more money every fight no matter who he fights, than either Fury or Fury will make no matter who they fight. This prize fighting and it's mainly about making big money. AJ already makes very big money in the UK fight after fight. He doesn't need Wilder or Fury to make the big bucks and they need him much more than he needs them or Ortiz.

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                #57
                Is anthony Johnson still fighting?

                Forgot about him..

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                  #58
                  Sorry about my sloppy post. I should have edited it but I made my point. I said AJ makes more money than Fury or Fury when I meant to say Fury or Wilder.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Robbie Barrett View Post
                    Any fighter can clip another. Doesn't make them elite FFS.

                    He had a title shot and failed and you think that justifies another shot with him doing **** all to earn one. Guys like Whyte have been fighting and beating top 10 HW's, why the **** should Ortiz get a shot over him?
                    Come on Robbie, he just beat the mighty Travis Kauffman in a snoozefest in the 10th round. What more can he do?😂😂ignore these clowns.

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                      #60
                      I would rather see Joshua fight Ortiz than Whyte or Miller tbh. I see AJ beating Ortiz in a lot better fashion than Wilder did. I doubt his critics will give him much credit for doing it though. I imagine we'd hear a lot of "Wilders leftovers" or "another old guy" if the fight actually got made.

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