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Aj needs to fight and beat ortiz impressive to keep pace with fury-wilder
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Originally posted by Robbie Barrett View PostWho do you think has beaten the best competition recently out of the contenders?Originally posted by MDPopescu View Post... OK, OK... but that's a small problem: he simply can't fight "whoever" in order to make good money at the Wembley, in April... no more...
Also if you just want to fill the stadium Millers got to perfect especially with all the talk coming from Wilder currnently, making a UK vs US scene atm. The British public are gonna pay to see another "loud mouthed American" shut up by AJ, super marketable.
Ortiz has no draw, doesn't speak English to build a hype, no prestigious undefeated record to take, could be considered leftovers and has looked mediocre in his recent perfomances. I imagine only the hardcore boxing fans want to see that as its a measuring stick for Wilder and AJ.
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Originally posted by Jax teller View PostI assume we are looking outside of Fury and Wilder. Whyte has done the most recenlty and is a draw in the UK now more than Takam and Povetkin so he probably would do well in filling the stadium, also has that grudge match angle.
Also if you just want to fill the stadium Miller got to perfect especially with all the talk coming from Wilder currnently, making a UK vs US scene atm. The British public are gonna pay to see another "loud mouthed American" shut up by AJ, super marketable.
Ortiz has no draw, doesn't speak English to build a hype, no prestigious undefeated record to take, could be considered leftovers and has looked mediocre in his recent perfomances. I imagine only the hardcore boxing fans want to see that as its a measuring stick for Wilder and AJ.
... Big Baby?... OK, OK... (as if the Brits are that ******!...)
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Originally posted by MDPopescu View Post... OK... then bring White and see what happens with the sales...
... Big Baby?... OK, OK... (as if the Brits are that ******!...)
Alot Wilder fans say AJ will avoid Miller because he's too good, thats dumb, so I'm sure Brit casuals that don't know boxing could be convinced to hate Miller enough to want to pay to see him get slept, he is good at talking crap.
You act like Wilder Fury has detracted from AJ, that is some dumb s#hit, all they've done is bring more attention to the sport that's good for everyone. The only way they affect AJ's sales is if they fight on the same night and that aint happening as they'd all lose out.
You don't seem to explain why Ortiz does any better.
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Maybe Ortiz should fight someone decent before getting a title shot again.
He hasn't had a good win in years and got stopped against his only truly good opponent.
As i've always said, people rate him higher than he is because Cuban's have a reputation of being good boxers. If the guy was an American from Ohio with his exact resume, nobody would rate him.
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Ortiz? LMAO, Joshua just beat a guy who is better than Ortiz in Povetkin and did something no other fighter (include Wlad) could do in Ko'ing him. Ortiz went 12 rounds with Malik scott, he needed 10 to take out Kauffman.
I used to think Ortiz could be a major player in the division but the more I watched him fight the more I realized he's just isnt good enough and at his age he's only getting worse.
As for relevance...AJ holds most of the belts and the fact that both Fury and Wilder called him out straight after their fight shows he's still relevant.
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Originally posted by Jax teller View PostThey're both ranked above Ortiz on boxrec and the WBC, the organisation that ranks gives Ortiz his highest ranking, have Whyte ranked higher.
Alot Wilder fans say AJ will avoid Miller because he's too good, thats dumb, so I'm sure Brit casuals that don't know boxing could be convinced to hate Miller enough to want to pay to see him get slept, he is good at talking crap.
You act like Wilder Fury has detracted from AJ, that is some dumb s#hit, all they've done is bring more attention to the sport that's good for everyone. The only way they affect AJ's sales is if they fight on the same night and that aint happening as they'd all lose out.
You don't seem to explain why Ortiz does any better.
... then he may fight Big Baby or White... and see what happens with the sales...
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I would be happy to see Joshua face Ortiz in April (assuming Fury and Wilder were unavailable) but he has no right to actually demand a title shot with a win streak of Cojanu and Kauffman. Whyte and Usyk are clearly more deserving right now
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