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Originally posted by Andrij View PostIt will also introduce Usyk to the US market. It will be live on DAZN USA.
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Originally posted by BoxingIsGreat View PostWhat are you talking about? Usyk is easily number 1 or 2 P4P right now. The fight against Bellew is just for the money.
Bellew is at best a C+ fighter who wouldn't add much to Usyk's overall standing. I don't know about the UK or Europe, tho. Is he a P4P of something there?
Bellew was #5 by TBRB at cruiser and similarly ranked elsewhere I think before he moved up to fight Haye. The Haye fights shouldn't have changed how people view him, but they probably have... Regardless, Bellew's cruiser run has been OK if not spectacular and the dude's achieved a fair amount on heart and balls considering he ain't that great and I think Cruiser is a better match for him than LHW. I also think Tony would at least make a good fight of it with most of the other top Cruisers, but against Usyk I just think he's gonna be out of his depth.Last edited by Citizen Koba; 11-03-2018, 05:31 AM.
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Originally posted by Koba-Grozny View PostWell Boxrec has him the UKs P4P #5, but much of that rests on the back of the Haye and Makabu wins - in reality I'd say down somewhere closer to 10, certainly not above the likes of Taylor, Saunders or Burnett. Dude's solid, but most of the rest of the world mainly remember him for getting KTFO by Stevenson which will colour opinions somewhat
Bellew was #5 by TBRB at cruiser and similarly ranked elsewhere I think before he moved up to fight Haye. The Haye fights shouldn't have changed how people view him, but they probably have... Regardless, Bellew's cruiser run has been OK if not spectacular and the dude's achieved a fair amount on heart and balls considering he ain't that great and I think Cruiser is a better match for him than LHW. I also think Tony would at least make a good fight of it with most of the other top Cruisers, but against Usyk I just think he's gonna be out of his depth.
I've nothing against the guy but he isn't some kind of a gauge for potentially great fighters, as the other poster stated.
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Originally posted by BoxingIsGreat View PostHaye was an ancient in boxing terms when Bellew fought him. Other than that, as you mentioned, people who know him only remember him for getting KTFO by Stevenson.
I've nothing against the guy but he isn't some kind of a gauge for potentially great fighters, as the other poster stated.
And Haye - well that was a bit of a joke... Haye's been a playboy for years and I'm amazed some serious boxing fans thought they would get the guy that beat Valuev and smashed Chisora. Won me a good few quid on Bellew in that fight - maybe that's why I got a soft spot for the dude.
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Originally posted by Koba-Grozny View PostNah. It should be a decent win against a top 10 Cruiser, but no more than that. In terms of FOTY though it's more that I think activity counts and sticking a solid top 10 on top of the wins he already has just solidifies his position.
And Haye - well that was a bit of a joke... Haye's been a playboy for years and I'm amazed some serious boxing fans thought they would get the guy that beat Valuev and smashed Chisora. Won me a good few quid on Bellew in that fight - maybe that's why I got a soft spot for the dude.
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I'm no Bellew fan but I don't get saying Usyk beating him adds nothing to his resume.
It's kind of like a unification, Bellew was a CW champion before vacating and moving up to demolish Haye twice as an underdog. I see it as beating the last guy with any kind of influence at the top of the division
The Stevenson loss years ago in a weight class he was drained in has absolutely nothing to do with now
All that said, I think Usyk will box his ears off to a wide UD and Bellew will ride off into the sunset having accomplished more in his career than he probably should have
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hes undisputed in his division, something everyone else is dancing around in there division so I have no issues with it. hes the one fighter who can say hes the king of the division while everyone else is clinging to politics and money taking the diva rode. he also has no issues doing it in others backyards, gotta give him props
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