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    #81
    He can say whatever he likes but the fact is Vegas are not got to *** over golden girlz and lose millions of dollars, judges are told to give close rnds to canelo and that's that, he's had way too many gift decisions for it not to be su****ious

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      #82
      G never beat the top fighters because they avoided him in his prime. Felix Sturm wanted no part of him, same with Sergio Martinez & Cotto paid off G (his mandatory) to fight Canelo, & still avoided him after losing that fight.With the new young guns at middleweight we have Jacobs who won the middleweight title in 2014 & didn't get in the ring with an almost 35 yr old G until 2017 & still lost a competitive fight. While G was stopping all his opponents Jacobs was fighting & stopping Sergio Mora twice (?). Saunders at first said he wasn't ready to face G yet, that is until G's KO's declined & his fights became a little tougher. Canelo moved up & beat Cotto for the middleweight title at a fabricated weight max of 155 lb, claiming he was to big to make 154 lb but to small for 160 lb (****** logic). He then defends title against Khan who's coming up from 147 lb, then vacates the title to go back to 154 lb for a fight with unknown Liam Smith. He then goes up to 164 (another fabricated weight class) to fight Chavez Jr. After all that he was now ready to come down in weight for match with 35 yr old GGG (you can't make this ***** up). Now G gets robbed of a hard fought victory for the 2nd time & with the added mileage & age will likely lose the 3rd match. Today I read that loud mouth Lara like Charlo is finally also ready to move up from 154 lb & fight at 160 lb. They took GGG's titles & he may be nearing the end, but the one consolation is that all these fighters that avoided him or waited him out will now have to go at it against each other with no more excuses.

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        #83
        Facts are facts, GGG won the fight. Again. And got the bad end of the judges cards.

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          #84
          Jim Lampley did more for GGG than Abel Sanchez! Lampley was ranting and raving for everything GGG did, while Max and RJJ tried to give some proper perspective to what we were watching! I love the part when Lampley got hyped about GGG landing a right hand and Roy came back and pointed to Canelo landing a right hand, and another right hand, and yet another right hand! Lampley never acknowledged them at all! Then came Abel Sanchez telling GGG "You're losing..." Lampley probably wanted to kill the mic right there! Now that Canelo is the champ, and might be leaving HBO, which makes a trilogy even less likely, Lampley is probably wanting to kill himself!
          Last edited by Bronx2245; 09-18-2018, 06:05 AM.

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            #85
            Originally posted by Ake-Dawg View Post
            Too many posters are pressed to feel like they were "right" and that they correctly had GGG winning. Only three opinions mattered Saturday night and 2 of them felt Alvarez won more rounds than GGG. That's all that matters. The system correctly awarded a winner.
            I think fans forget that we have instant replay, and the judges don't! The judges saw a fatigued fighter backing up constantly, visibly hurt by body shot after body shot! GGG was jabbing beautifully, and would've won the fight, if it were an amateur fight, but it wasn't! GGG probably deserved a draw, just like Lara deserved a draw, but the difference was Lara was the smaller man, on his bike, GGG was the bigger man, being backed up and smacked up, and wasn't a good look!

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              #86
              It was a close fight. The judges were approved by GGG and his team. Canelo won a majority decision. That about sums it up. Oh yes, one more thing -- each fighter will receive millions of dollars for his effort.

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                #87
                Originally posted by Boxing Scene View Post
                Facts are facts, GGG won the fight. Again. And got the bad end of the judges cards.
                "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts." Daniel Patrick Moynihan.

                Your opinion sir are not facts. The fact of the fight is: It is the opinion of two of the judges who scored that Canelo won the fight by a narrow margin and the third scored it as a draw.

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by Boxing Scene View Post
                  Facts are facts, GGG won the fight. Again. And got the bad end of the judges cards.
                  Looks like you got your "facts" messed up there chief. Can you point me to these "facts" so I can be enlightened? Cause if this wasn't a draw, then Canelo wins. As the judges said he did...

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by Bronx2245 View Post
                    I think fans forget that we have instant replay, and the judges don't! The judges saw a fatigued fighter backing up constantly, visibly hurt by body shot after body shot! GGG was jabbing beautifully, and would've won the fight, if it were an amateur fight, but it wasn't! GGG probably deserved a draw, just like Lara deserved a draw, but the difference was Lara was the smaller man, on his bike, GGG was the bigger man, being backed up and smacked up, and wasn't a good look!
                    Yea, good eye. Although I struggle to give even a draw to Golovkin. Your right, he was tired, backing up, this was Canelo's fight. I'd say they're 1 and 1...don't need a rematch tho.

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                      #90
                      3rd time I post this list online. All these experts had no problem calling it a draw or a win for G. Thats a long list of reporters & writers who at the very least thought GGG should have kept his belts.

                      Media Scorecards:
                      Dan Rafael (ESPN): 114-114
                      Arash Markazi (ESPN): 114-114
                      Brett Okamoto (ESPN): 114-114
                      Salvador Rodriguez (ESPN Mexico): 114-114
                      Lance Pugmire (LA Times): 114-114
                      Kevin Iole (Yahoo! Sports): 114-114
                      Mike Coppinger (The Ring ****zine): 114-114
                      Douglass Fischer (The Ring ****zine): 114-114
                      Bill Simmons (HBO & The Ringer): 114-114
                      George Willis (New York Post): 114-114
                      Brian Mazique (Forbes): 114-114
                      Marc Livitz (SecondsOut.com): 114-114
                      Steve Bunce (BT Sport): 114-114
                      Sports Ilustrated: 114-114
                      Boxingscene: 114-114
                      Profiboxing.cz: 114-114
                      Ryan O'Hara (FightNights.com): 115-113 Golovkin
                      Mike Baca II (The Ring ****zine): 115-113 Golovkin
                      Adam Abramowitz (Saturday Night Boxing: 115-113 Golovkin
                      Eduardo Lamazón (TV Azteca): 116-112 Golovkin
                      Gareth A. Davies (The Telegraph): 116-112 Golovkin
                      Josh Peter (USA Today): 115-113 Golovkin
                      Dylan Hernandez (LA Times): 115-113 Golovkin
                      Chris Mannix (Yahoo! Sports): 115-113 Golovkin
                      Joe DePaolo (Washington Post): 115-113 Golovkin
                      Tom Craze (Bad Left Hook): 116-112 Golovkin
                      Fraser Coffeen (Bloody Elbow): 115-113 Golovkin
                      Anton Tabuena (Bloody Elbow): 115-113 Golovkin
                      Adam Caparell (Complex Sports): 116-112 Golovkin
                      Steven Muehihausen (Sporting News): 116-112 Golovkin
                      Michael Montero (MonteroOnBoxing): 115-113 Golovkin
                      Matt Christie (Boxing News): 115-114 Golovkin
                      Stephen A. Smith (ESPN): 115-113 Golovkin
                      Brian Campbell (CBS Sports): 116-112 Golovkin
                      Barry Jones (BT Sport): 116-112 Golovkin
                      Harold Lederman (HBO): 116-112 Golovkin
                      Michael Benson (talkSPORT): 116-112 Golovkin
                      Michelle Phelps (Behind The Gloves): 115-113 Golovkin
                      Mike Costello (BBC Sport): 115-113 Golovkin
                      Arne Lang (The Sweet Science) 117-111 Canelo
                      The Guardian: 116-112 Golovkin

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