Comments Thread For: Golovkin Welcomes War With Canelo: He's NOT a Heavy Puncher

[MrShakeAndBake]

GGG aint ready for these hands. Canelo going to tune that ass up like Don Cheadle in Rush Hour 2. The Young King been on holiday, laying low. Now he is back. Young King x

Pull them out of your mouth young troll and sit down...

[Lopez_Boxing]

The type of “knowledge” as you stated are “common sense” responses from what I call armchair boxing fans and really don’t show any boxing IQ at all. They are bird parrot responses, basically repeating what has been said already here or elsewhere or heard.

Here is what a “real boxing IQ” will illustrate. It breaks down the tactical strategies more. You want to know the accurate reason GGG didn’t go to the body more and only threw (8) body shots the entire night. It’s because the body shot is easier to counter in boxing than the jab is. That’s boxing 101 and one of the first things you learn in a boxing gym. GGG threw more jabs and power shots in the first fight because Canelo was more accurate with his counter shots. Canelo’s effective counter punching and the angles he created with his footwork discouraged GGG from going to the body. When GGG throws body shots, he prefers a specific stance. Canelo’s ring generalship never allowed him to get set for the type of body shots GGG likes to throw and was effective with against past opponents. And most of the punches GGG threw were jabs and power shots to the head.

So Canelo was so effective with his countering and footwork all night, that GGG jabbed instead of throwing body shots to set up his head shots, instead of body shots to set up his head shots like he normally does. Again, it is more difficult to counter a jab than a punch to the body. So Boxers can be reluctant to throw certain punches based off what’s easier to counter.

And fighters can sometimes be reluctant to go in and it doesn’t necessarily have anything to do with fearing the power of another fighter. It means they are afraid of being countered where points are scored and collected. For example, fighters that faced guys like Pernall Whitaker & Floyd Mayweather including Canelo, weren’t necessarily afraid of their power but afraid of losing rounds on points and getting countered and hit period. So GGG is basically saying Canelo isn’t much of a heavy puncher “to him” as much as an effective counter puncher that can accumulate points within rounds that can win a fight & sway the judges. I’m sure GGG felt Canelo’s punches but he is probably comparing them to other punches he felt such as Lemieux or Jacobs or other “natural middleweights.”

Another thing, I joke about Canelo but I think he won that first fight. GGG got awarded for aggression but it wasn’t effective aggression. He threw more jabs and power shots but his accuracy wasn’t there. Canelo got awarded from judges on his effective counter shots. But they didn’t award him enough. They got caught up in GGG coming forward all night and just throwing more. He landed punches but they weren’t as effective and as impactful as the punches Canelo landed. That is why the fight was score a draw, it was the optics and how it looked to each judge scoring the fight.

The (1) judge who had it wide for Canelo, he saw only (8) body shots from GGG which is a staple in his arsenal in previous fights and he saw a lot of GGG’s punches missing as compared to Canelos, so he believed Canelo was running away with the fight all night. And when GGG did land, his punches didn’t have the same type of impact they had in previous fights. Judges will consider that. Canelo didn’t appear to be hurt all night from any shot.

The judge that score for GGG, thought he was the agressor and dictated the fight because he was coming forward and throwing more punches. All the stats suggest that but he wasn’t effectively cutting off the ring and controlling the fight. The (1) judge that scored for GGG was based on his perception of who was controlling the fight, right or wrong. Sugar Ray Leonard backed up all night against Hagler but stood in certain moments in each round in front of Hagler and threw crisp landing shots that were clearly scored by the judges even though they didn’t hurt Hagler. Canelo probably knows he didn’t do enough of what Leonard did which is why they said they will increase their endurance and throw more punches in the second fight.

And it you look at my response to the boxingfanatic on Clenbutrol, it shows he knows nothing about what was in Canelos body. And this POST shows NONE of YOU really know sh@t about boxing-LOL!

Haha all you’re doing is breaking down why those guys said what they said. Lol. What the f**k. Those guys “26x2=52” you “26X2....well 2X6 equals 12, drop the 2 carry the one in your poindexter voice. We arent asking anyone to show their work here. Hell most guys are posting quick comments. Thanks for your essay, but you could have summed it up in a couple quick sentences like the gentlemen I quoted did. So LOL at your ADD OCD ass.

[YoungKing88]

Pull them out of your mouth young troll and sit down...

"Sit down young man" you on that DC Daniel Cormier vibe. I like your style boy, I know there is that mutual respect between us. Young King x

[markther]

Out of all the jabs gennady threw, he could of thrown the jab to the body which is a power punch ala mayweather... But he was just completely denied of any body work by canelo. Good post.

It was actually a strategy by Canelos training camp in the first fight to deny body shots by GGG.

[doninlouisiana]

I believe that they both felt each other's power through out the fight, and it showed by Canelo moving away from it and GGG not going to the body as usual(Afraid to be countered).

[markther]

Haha all you’re doing is breaking down why those guys said what they said. Lol. What the f**k. Those guys “26x2=52” you “26X2....well 2X6 equals 12, drop the 2 carry the one in your poindexter voice. We arent asking anyone to show their work here. Hell most guys are posting quick comments. Thanks for your essay, but you could have summed it up in a couple quick sentences like the gentlemen I quoted did. So LOL at your ADD OCD ass.

No, I had to break it down becuase you sounded ******ed. I needed to explain it to you before you go back from your break to your cell. We know some Mexicans are criminals-LOL!!! And you probably needed a calculator to multiple with your dumb ass-LOL!!!

But they didn’t break it down nor did you ****** moron. You simply copied there ****** comments like the the internet fan boy you are-LOL!!! You sounded like a f@cking internet stalker-CTFU!!!
“Oh he said this and he said that and you were just sucking their balls dry instead of posting an original comment. But you as usual have nothing substantial to add to this forum. Get your own stuff, be original and stop being a f@cking internet loser LOPATHETIC...LOL!!! And tell your mom to clean up her cum the next time, and take it in her mouth..f@cking trick-LOL!

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All back and forth arguments aside, this should be a great fight and I can't wait!!

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118-110 for Alvarez. Wow. Guess it’s been awhile cuz I didn’t remember the robbery being so blatant.

I had it a draw 6-6, lock it up. I am not even interested in the rematch not going to lie.

[Lopez_Boxing]

No, I had to break it down becuase you sounded ******ed. I needed to explain it to you before you go back from your break to your cell. We know all Mexicans are criminals-LOL!!! But they didn’t break it down nor did you ****** moron. You simply copied there ****** comments like the the internet fan boy you are-LOL!!! You sounded like a f@cking internet stalker-CTFU!!!
“Oh he said this and he said that and you were just sucking there balls dry instead of posting an original comment. But you as usual have nothing substantial to add to this forum. Get your own stuff, be original and stop being a f@cking internet loser LOPATHETIC...LOL!!! And tell your mom to clean up her cum the next time, and take it in her mouth..f@cking trick-LOL!

Ohhh my feelings are hurt. Please stop with the insults. And my mom didn’t have anything to do with this and now her feelings are hurt because the mean you things you said. I don’t know how I will ever face my self in the mirror knowing some weird dude (probably a female by seeing how sensitive you are about boxing conversations) said mean stuff to me.....by the way the “ in my feelings challenge” is a dance not doing some emotional rant about a meaningless life topic cry baby. Haha and not all Mexicans are criminals nor is every Lopez a Mexican.

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I call BS! If canelo didnt punch hard, then why didnt ggg walk through his punches and taje two to land one of his own and ko canelo? Specially when canelo gave him the invite to the ropes! Gggroupies of course will belive this mans bs again...

The same reason canelo didn't walk down Floyd. Or at least he did try and failed.