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Originally posted by GGG Gloveking View PostYou're right, Wilder fans wonder how a guy that doesnt give a fućk about his fans has enough fans to collect $20M checks
It’s becuase he doesn’t have any fans where Joshua fights and there’s a whole world outside of America. I know it’s a tough concept to grasp but there are a lot of people in Europe, plenty to sell out stadiums many times over. He doesn’t need Wilder, Wilder needs him.
The only reason for AJ to chase Wilder at all costs would be for ego, to get respect, to have ‘all’ the belts. He’s saying ‘why bother?’ because in 10 years from now he’ll be done and richer for managing his career cleverly. Smart man.
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Originally posted by NearHypnos View PostI dont think he’s ducking it’s just a guy who’s clearly frustrated that he doesn’t know how to articulate it. Wilder and Joshua arent afraid it’s just a sotuation where everyone is ******ed. The only one making sense is Hearn...and you have to try REALLY hard and put yourself in his position and be a douche.
It’s up there with some of the things Thurman has said and Floyd has said. We know they’re not ducking or afraid but it comes off real bad with the timing. I’ve given most guys the benefit of the doubt....except Victor Ortrees who flat out said he shouldnt be taking beatings and proceeded to have a prolific quitting career.
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Originally posted by sportbuddha View PostI think what Wilder fans don’t get, is he doesn’t give a **** if you ‘respect’ him. It’s not prison, it’s not the street, he really couldn’t care about your opinion of the way he manages his career, because he’s turning up to collect $15-20m pay checks and the guy you’re cheerleading is not.
You can go around thinking he’s scared because he knows what’s really going, he’s strategising a way to change the game, you’re not thinking on his level.
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Originally posted by MELLOMAN007 View PostVery true sir, but I have a feeling some will be on here performing mental gymnastics in an attempt to spin this. As usual...
But Joshua himself must be beginning to mentally crumb under the intense scrutiny. He usually tries to be cool and think before he speaks. Now he's letting Jarrell Miller get under his skin, and he's telling fans to go fight Wilder themselves. I've never heard a champion say anything like that.
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Originally posted by MELLOMAN007 View PostHey buddy, I know A.J. told you it was raining on you, but that isn't water. He just told you how he feels about his fans and here you are still supporting this obviously fear induced comments. Shameful...
People are deluded that boxing is anything other than a business, watching the recent GGG v Canelo negotiations or Wilder v AJ must be in no doubt now.
This all broke down because of DAZN, simple as that. AJ is going with the long term big bucks over foolish pride, and it’s the right thing to do from a business perspective. Doesn’t make Wilder fans happy, who cares.
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Originally posted by sportbuddha View PostWell as the Povetkin tickets sell like hot cakes you have to ask yourself, why is no one boycotting the fight because they support Wilder?
It’s becuase he doesn’t have any fans where Joshua fights and there’s a whole world outside of America. I know it’s a tough concept to grasp but there are a lot of people in Europe, plenty to sell out stadiums many times over. He doesn’t need Wilder, Wilder needs him.
The only reason for AJ to chase Wilder at all costs would be for ego, to get respect, to have ‘all’ the belts. He’s saying ‘why bother?’ because in 10 years from now he’ll be done and richer for managing his career cleverly. Smart man.
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Originally posted by sportbuddha View PostWell as the Povetkin tickets sell like hot cakes you have to ask yourself, why is no one boycotting the fight because they support Wilder?
It’s becuase he doesn’t have any fans where Joshua fights and there’s a whole world outside of America. I know it’s a tough concept to grasp but there are a lot of people in Europe, plenty to sell out stadiums many times over. He doesn’t need Wilder, Wilder needs him.
The only reason for AJ to chase Wilder at all costs would be for ego, to get respect, to have ‘all’ the belts. He’s saying ‘why bother?’ because in 10 years from now he’ll be done and richer for managing his career cleverly. Smart man.
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Originally posted by GGG Gloveking View PostHe can make lots of money off of idiots who will pay him to fight anyone rather than the best. And I'm sure there will be people, such as yourself, who will brag about how much money he makes while he sits there and tells you he doesn't care what you want.
And btw, they will fight, so the fans will get what they want, I’m maybe just more patient. If anything it’s good for Wilder, the more he can work on improving the better.
Most people I know aren’t fixated on Wilder, technically Povetkin is as good opponent and it’s a good match up.
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