US Gates vs UK Gates

[BodiesInFlight]

Do me a favor...never...NEVER tell me how long ago a fight was.

[club fighter]

Why can't the do the same amount of PPV's with the fight in Vegas? Sky will still have rights, they can sell it to the Germans like they always do and get a piece of the US market too.

They can, but that's not the issue. I'm a USA/Wilder backer but the belts is the belts, and AJ's got most of them, there's no getting around it.

Not tripping off it myself cause I doubt hometown officiating will be an issue, the bout won't go the distance.

[Holler]

Here we go with another pleb.

There goes your shíthead theory.

The personal insults don't add anything to your argument, quite the opposite in fact. Please cut them out and we can discuss the arguments civilly.

As for the actual arguments. Golovkin was the most recent I can recall but you don't know the history of boxing if you're going to start extolling the virtues of Las Vegas decision making. Felix Sturm robbed by De La Hoya, Manny Pacquiao by Timothy Bradley etc etc. Vegas is no guarantee of fair officiating far from it.

The 7 fights you mention. 5 of them have the biggest generating fighter of all time, Vegas native Mayweather who enjoys a far greater profile than either of these fighters. 4 of them have Hispanic fighters helping to deliver the Latino crowd. Lewis Holyfield is the closest comparison but that was a long time ago and both those fighters had far higher profiles in the US.

[N/A]

Wilder is a $2 million fighter on his best day.

He was paid $5.2 million for the Povetkin fight.

He will probably get $15 million at a similar split to Parker.

He's a much bigger star than Parker, has a much more important belt than Parker and brings a much bigger market to the table than Parker does.

[Ray*]

Doing 17,000 with Mayweather, Hopkins, De la Hoya etc is different to doing 17,000 with Wilder. In this case you are absolutely wrong. I was one of the Brit that backed Mayweather v Hatton happening in America because a 17,000 attendance in Vegas with Mayweather is financially more rewarding than an attendance of 50,000 in the Uk at MEN arena. Fights happens were the biggest money is and the Joshua v Wilder fight would be happening in the UK as of now.

[Ray*]

He was paid $5.2 million for the Povetkin fight.




He's a much bigger star than Parker, has a much more important belt than Parker and brings a much bigger market to the table than Parker does.

That’s how Wilder team would sell it, from AJ team they would say they have 3 belts to Wilder 1. So just because Wilder is a bigger star than Parker doesn’t mean he would get more, it’s what they each bring to the table. If Wilder is bringing a good amount of money to the table from the networks, endorsement etc then am sure he would end up making more than Parker.

[PensionKiller]

12 Mil gates is impressive despite the numbers...

A comparison for this is that the UFC has abotu 10 mil gates...
12 mil gate is more than most boxers have ever done other than the very top ones.

AJ is doing it 20 fights in...

[N/A]

That’s how Wilder team would sell it, from AJ team they would say they have 3 belts to Wilder 1. So just because Wilder is a bigger star than Parker doesn’t mean he would get more, it’s what they each bring to the table. If Wilder is bringing a good amount of money to the table from the networks, endorsement etc then am sure he would end up making more than Parker.

Hard for anybody to make a reasonable argument that Wilder should be getting less than Parker. The US is so much bigger than New Zealand. The WBC belt is so much more valuable than the WBO belt. Wilder has so many more fans than Parker.

If Parker got 33.3%, 40% is fair for Wilder. Doesn't mean Hearn will concede the point. He may try to beat Wilder down to 38% or something like that, but there's no doubt Wilder will get more than Parker if this fight happens.

[Ray*]

Hard for anybody to make a reasonable argument that Wilder should be getting less than Parker. The US is so much bigger than New Zealand. The WBC belt is so much more valuable than the WBO belt. Wilder has so many more fans than Parker.

If Parker got 33.3%, 40% is fair for Wilder. Doesn't mean Hearn will concede the point. He may try to beat Wilder down to 38% or something like that, but there's no doubt Wilder will get more than Parker if this fight happens.

If Wilder gets 30% it’s would still be more than what Parker gets at 40%.

[Holler]

Hard for anybody to make a reasonable argument that Wilder should be getting less than Parker. The US is so much bigger than New Zealand. The WBC belt is so much more valuable than the WBO belt. Wilder has so many more fans than Parker.

If Parker got 33.3%, 40% is fair for Wilder. Doesn't mean Hearn will concede the point. He may try to beat Wilder down to 38% or something like that, but there's no doubt Wilder will get more than Parker if this fight happens.

As Ray said he'll earn more than Parker even with a lower split because the overall pie will be bigger.

The argument that he deserves a bigger percentage doesn't take account that AJ is now bringing far more to the table. Three of the four major belts plus the IBO means wilder would have the chance to be undisputed with just one victory.

In reality neither Parker or Wilder deserve over 30% given the massive disparity in earning power between themselves and AJ. So the question becomes how much is AJ willing to overpay to get the fight? I'd be astonished if that goes beyond 35 to be honest. He will feel that he's already overpaid opponents to assemble these belts in the first place and Wilder is already benefitting from the chance to become undisputed without doing the legwork.

Maybe there's an argument for giving wilder a bigger pcentwge of any fresh us cash which comes in over and above what the Parker fight generated however.