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    #71
    Originally posted by Loma#1 View Post
    I heard Parker’s mom cried in the interview pertaining to Joshua. That is more utterly gruesome
    Alexander Povetkin is a FAKE and an UNNATURAL heavyweight that doesn't belong in the same ring with Anthony Joshua who is a REAL and NATURAL heavyweight. This bout is a gruesome mismatch in all honesty!

    Alexander Povetkin is a blown up natural light heavyweight / cruiser weight with 20 or 30 extra pounds of unnecessary fat. If he sheds those unnecessary pounds, he won't be any bigger than Sergey Kovalev or at maximum size, a cruiser weight.

    Performance enhancing drugs are what even allowed him to be competitive at the top level in the first place of the heavyweight division. Without them, he is just an overweight light heavyweight that poses 0 threats to REAL heavyweights.

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      #72
      Originally posted by No punch power View Post
      I was strictly referring to size and the size difference is clearly evident!

      There is a reason why Wladimir Klitschko was able to man handle, rag doll, dominate and out muscle muscle Alexander Povetkin by being able to manoeuvre him all over the ring whilst Povetkin could never adjust / adapt / provide any answers to such a tactic. On the other hand, the same Wladimir Klitschko failed to have anywhere near the same success at using the same tactic against Anthony Joshua. Do you want to know why? It was because of SIZE! Alexander Povetkin isn't a respectable heavyweight with respectable size of a REAL / NATURAL heavyweight. On the other hand, Anthony Joshua and Wladimir Klitschko are respectable heavyweights that are have NATURAL and REAL size of a modern heavyweight.

      Against Christian Hammer, Alexander Povetkin proved he lacked the physical strength required to generate the necessary punching power required to even dent Christian Hammer. To the point where Hammer was almost mocking and laughing off Povetkin's punches as if those punches belonged in a lower weight division and not in the heavyweight division. This is the same Christian Hammer that was brutally knocked out by Mariusz Wach!

      The much bigger and stronger Anthony Joshua is barely even going to feel Povetkin's most powerful punches. At worse, those punches are going to slightly sting and maybe even tickle. Otherwise, Joshua is facing 0 risk or threat at losing against Alexander Povetkin.

      On the other hand, Anthony Joshua's landed punches are going to decrease days from Povetkin's life. It would be similar to a boxer getting hit by another boxer from a higher weight division. Such is the mismatch!

      These two don't even belong in the same together! Povetkin gets squashed like an absolute bug if they ever fight.

      If you condone bouts like this happening and think bouts like these are credible, then you must be a big of insane mismatches!

      Oleksandr Usyk would be MUCH more competitive and a MUCH more challenging opponent for Joshua than Povetkin because Usyk at least possesses much greater skills to overcome his lack of size. Povetkin's skills are unfortunately also very limited along with him lacking size. He has a below average jab.
      Well why dont you make a Parker breakdown for everyone since they are actually fighting and Parker has even less chance than Povetkin would ?

      Considering your summary of Povetkin , for this one you will need ambulances ,stretcher , priests at ring side and you can even throw in body bags !

      Added ammo thats actually happened already you can use like Parkers mom crying about the thought of hulking Joshua laying into him, you can really dig in there ..


      You can even have Kevin Barry choking on his gum with his hands around his throat as he cant breath and his side kick David "Twitchy " Higgins , flopping on the ground from a seizure as they see Parker go down Rocky 4 Apollo Creed style .


      Come on give us the setting of the Parker vs Joshua scenerio and why Parker should go into hiding as long as Joshua is putting on the gloves !

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        #73
        Originally posted by champion4ever View Post
        I think he matches up better against Joshua than Deontay Wilder because Anthony is a little slower than Wilder and he could probably work himself on the inside with Joshua.

        However, Joshua just may push him off while Wilder would probably just back up and invite him in on the inside just so he can time him with that straight right hand of his as did Wladimir Klitschko; Even though Klitschko held him all night.
        Both are equal mismatches against Alexander Povetkin! Both squash Povetkin like a bug with minimum effort. Neither need to even train that much or take this bout too seriously to totally flatten Povetkin like a small insect getting stomped on by a gorilla. Such is the mismatch!

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          #74
          Originally posted by No punch power View Post
          Alexander Povetkin is a FAKE and an UNNATURAL heavyweight that doesn't belong in the same ring with Anthony Joshua who is a REAL and NATURAL heavyweight. This bout is a gruesome mismatch in all honesty!

          Alexander Povetkin is a blown up natural light heavyweight / cruiser weight with 20 or 30 extra pounds of unnecessary fat. If he sheds those unnecessary pounds, he won't be any bigger than Sergey Kovalev or at maximum size, a cruiser weight.

          Performance enhancing drugs are what even allowed him to be competitive at the top level in the first place of the heavyweight division. Without them, he is just an overweight light heavyweight that poses 0 threats to REAL heavyweights.
          Povetkin looks naturally big. He doesn’t look hard stretched in muscular mass like Holyfield or Tyson. Anabolic steroids. Remember Jose Conseco or Barry Bonds? And the Kovalev guy looks like a skinny guy with power. Speed helps the momentum of power shots

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            #75
            Originally posted by juggernaut666 View Post
            Well why dont you make a Parker breakdown for everyone since they are actually fighting and Parker has even less chance than Povetkin would ?

            Considering your summary of Povetkin , for this one you will need ambulances ,stretcher , priests at ring side and you can even throw in body bags !

            Added ammo thats actually happened already you can use like Parkers mom crying about the thought of hulking Joshua laying into him, you can really dig in there ..


            You can even have Kevin Barry choking on his gum with his hands around his throat as he cant breath and his side kick David "Twitchy " Higgins , flopping on the ground from a seizure as they see Parker go down Rocky 4 Apollo Creed style .


            Come on give us the setting of the Parker vs Joshua scenerio and why Parker should go into hiding as long as Joshua is putting on the gloves !

            I'm a big fan of Alexander Povektin but Joseph Parker at least deserves to be in the same ring as Anthony Joshua because he is more of a NATURAL and a REAL heavyweight (despite not being too good boxing skills wise). However, Povetkin should not even be in the same ring as Anthony Joshua in a bout against him because Povetkin is not even a NATURAL or a REAL heavyweight to begin with. His performance enhancing drugs are what allowed him to make up for his lack of size temporarily but without them, he is an Andre Ward or a Sergey Kovalev with 30 pounds of unnecessary fat competing in the heavyweight division. Without them, Povetkin is a natural light heavyweight or at most, a cruiser weight.

            Povetkin's skills aren't enough for the heavyweight division because he isn't NATURALLY strong or powerful enough physically to compete without artificial enhancement. His skills are only going to be of any benefit against opponents his own size in a lower weight division and not against a ridiculously over sized monster / giant in Anthony Joshua who he stands 0% chance of beating.

            Joseph Parker with Povetkin's skills could very well defeat Anthony Joshua due to being a REAL and a NATURAL heavyweight. However, Povetkin, despite his skills cannot defeat Anthony Joshua NATURALLY because he isn't big enough NATURALLY to be considered a REAL and a NATURAL heavyweight.

            See Alexander Povetkin vs Wladimir Klitschko to see a REAL heavyweight (Wladimir Klitschko) mismatched against a FAKE heavyweight in Alexander Povetkin and how one sided such a bout was. Simply because they both don't belong in the same weight division.

            Whilst have a look at Anthony Joshua vs Wladimir Klitschko to see two REAL heavyweights fighting each other and how competitive such a bout was. Because both are REAL heavyweights!

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              #76
              Originally posted by No punch power View Post
              I'm a big fan of Alexander Povektin but Joseph Parker at least deserves to be in the same ring as Anthony Joshua because he is more of a NATURAL and a REAL heavyweight (despite not being too good boxing skills wise). However, Povetkin should not even be in the same ring as Anthony Joshua in a bout against him because Povetkin is not even a NATURAL or a REAL heavyweight to begin with. His performance enhancing drugs are what allowed him to make up for his lack of size temporarily but without them, he is an Andre Ward or a Sergey Kovalev with 30 pounds of unnecessary fat competing in the heavyweight division. Without them, Povetkin is a natural light heavyweight or at most, a cruiser weight.

              Povetkin's skills aren't enough for the heavyweight division because he isn't NATURALLY strong or powerful enough physically to compete without artificial enhancement. His skills are only going to be of any benefit against opponents his own size in a lower weight division and not against a ridiculously over sized monster / giant in Anthony Joshua who he stands 0% chance of beating.

              Joseph Parker with Povetkin's skills could very well defeat Anthony Joshua due to being a REAL and a NATURAL heavyweight. However, Povetkin, despite his skills cannot defeat Anthony Joshua NATURALLY because he isn't big enough NATURALLY to be considered a REAL and a NATURAL heavyweight.

              See Alexander Povetkin vs Wladimir Klitschko to see a REAL heavyweight (Wladimir Klitschko) mismatched against a FAKE heavyweight in Alexander Povetkin and how one sided such a bout was. Simply because they both don't belong in the same weight division.

              Whilst have a look at Anthony Joshua vs Wladimir Klitschko to see two REAL heavyweights fighting each other and how competitive such a bout was. Because both are REAL heavyweights!
              Parker vs Povetkin

              Power : Povetkin
              Speed : Parker
              Stamina : Parker
              Accuracy : Povetkin
              Ring IQ : Povetkin
              Experiance : Povetkin
              Footwork: Parker
              Offense: Tie
              Defense : Povetkin
              Chin: Not Appliable
              Ring Cutting ability : Povetkin
              Better Combination Puncher : Parker
              Better Inside Fighter : Povetkin
              Better Mid range Fighter : Povetkin
              Better Outside Fighter : Parker
              Better Hair cut: Parker
              Better Walk out Music : Povetkin


              As you can see , Povetkin does have the factors enabling him to be the more effective HW than Parker!


              Do the Parker match !
              Last edited by juggernaut666; 02-03-2018, 05:45 AM.

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                #77
                Originally posted by juggernaut666 View Post
                Parker vs Povetkin

                Power : Povetkin
                Speed : Parker
                Stamina : Parker
                Accuracy : Povetkin
                Ring IQ : Povetkin
                Experiance : Povetkin
                Footwork: Parker
                Offense: Tie
                Defense : Povetkin
                Chin: Not Appliable
                Ring Cutting ability : Povetkin
                Better Combination Puncher : Parker
                Better Inside Fighter : Povetkin
                Better Mid range Fighter : Povetkin
                Better Outside Fighter : Parker
                Better Hair cut: Parker
                Better Walk out Music : Povetkin


                As you can see , Povetkin does have the factors enabling him to be the more effective HW than Parker!


                Do the Parker match !
                Artur Beterbiev outperforms Joseph Parker in most of those departments. Does that mean he is a better HEAVYWEIGHT than Joseph Parker or is going to stand a better chance at beating Anthony Joshua?

                At heavyweight boxing: weight, size, physical strength and punching power > boxing skills and abilities.

                A skilled boxer who isn't sufficiently powerful and physically strong is going to lose to a heavyweight that is less skilled but much stronger and much more powerful.

                Alexander Povetkin is far too small to be a credible / worth / respectable opponent for Anthony Joshua. Joseph Parker is less skilled than Povetkin but is a NATURAL and a REAL heavyweight unlike Alexander Povetkin.

                Joshua deserves 0 credit if he beats Povetkin. Joshua deserves at least some credit if he beats Parker.

                If Joshua even struggles against Povetkin or loses more than a single round and ends up being involved in a close match against Povetkin, then Joshua deserves criticism!

                And if Joshua fails to KO Povetkin, then Joshua was never that good to begin with.

                And if Joshua gets knocked out by Povetkin or even beaten, then Joshua simply isn't a worthy top 10 boxer, never mind a worthy champion.

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by Loma#1 View Post
                  Povetkin looks naturally big. He doesn’t look hard stretched in muscular mass like Holyfield or Tyson. Anabolic steroids. Remember Jose Conseco or Barry Bonds? And the Kovalev guy looks like a skinny guy with power. Speed helps the momentum of power shots
                  Alexander Povetkin carries more than 10 pounds of body fat. If he sheds the unnecessary pounds of body fat, then he is the same weight as someone like Andre Ward or at most, the same size as a current cruiser weight like Mairis Briedis.

                  I believe Mike Tyson and Evander Holyfield were also consuming performance enhancing drugs to be able to even compete at the top level of the heavyweight division against giants and much bigger heavyweight boxers.

                  However, Povetkin is NATURALLY a light heavyweight or at most, a cruiser weight that doesn't belong in the heavyweight division without performance enhancing drugs. Without performance enhancing drugs, he stands 0 chance at beating any of the current top heavyweights.

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by Switch Hitter93 View Post
                    It's clear to any knowledgeable fans of boxing like us that povetkin poses a great risk to aj. the real issue is povetkins form diminishing between now and the aj fight he has slowed but in his last fight the snap was on those punches he missed would of koed if they landed. He's probably one of the few fighters that's ajs fought who wouldn't be intimidated those Russians are tough as arse holes and povetkins got the technique and skill to pose a few problems to aj
                    Alexander Povetkin poses 0 threat to Anthony Joshua without performance enhancing drugs. Even with performance enhancing drugs, he will still be the huge underdog but will stand a decent enough chance of winning because he can overcome his lack of size through being artificially and chemically enhanced.

                    And as far as Povetkin's bout against Christian Hammer, you do realize Povetkin landed everything but the kitchen sink on Hammer but was still unable to even put much of a dent on him, right? Hammer was laughing off Povetkin's weak punches and taking the mockery out of Povetkin's punches, to the point where it appeared as if Povetkin's punches didn't even belong in the heavyweight division but instead belonged in a lower weight division because of how weak they appeared and looked. All this proved was how Alexander Povetkin lacks the physical strength required to generate the necessary punching power required to hurt big heavyweights like Christian Hammer because Povetkin himself is too small in size. What do you think would happen if Povetkin was facing Joshua and was throwing punches with the same power? Anthony Joshua is even bigger in size than Christian Hammer and could probably literally just walk right through Povetkin's punches like they were nothing. Because without performance enhancing drugs, Povetkin doesn't possess sufficient punching power to bother big heavyweights like Joshua or Hammer. Rather, his punching power belongs in a lower weight division like the light heavyweight division where he could hurt light heavyweights / cruiser weights but not big heavyweights.

                    This might turn into a UK slaughter / execution house for the poor Russian that is Alexander Povetkin. I really don't want to see him brutally ripped apart by Anthony Joshua in front of the whole world and get exposed as a weak Russian. Especially with the world cup 2018 football taking place in Russia.

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by _Rexy_ View Post
                      haha you should be hired commentator for Sky Sports. Would have fit in perfectly during the Takam fight where we were led to believe AJ was the first fighter in history to battle through a broken nose lmao
                      To true, and the funniest thing was is that his nose wasent even broken lol it was just bruised. Which is bound to happen. When your boxing lol

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