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    #61
    Originally posted by Mr Objecitivity View Post
    Yes, they are similar. To claim they are "not one bit similar" is like me claiming a "tiger is not one but similar to a lion" when that's obviously false.

    Doesn't Holyfield have an excellent chin / punch resistance? So does Takam.

    Doesn't Holyfield throw excellent combination punches? So does Carlos Takam.

    Doesn't Holyfield box in the pocket / inside? So does Takam.

    Perhaps Holyfield is better than Takam and does those things better than Takam. But that's not the point! Two boxers can be stylistically similar with one being a better boxer and being better at using the same style.


    Yes, maybe Takam is more similar to Danny Garcia than he is to Evander Holyfield. However, the question isn't: 'who does Takam most closely resemble stylistically. The question is: who does Evander Holyfield most closely resemble out of the current heavyweights and Takam seems like he is closer to Holyfield stylistically than any other heavyweight today.

    Otherwise, who is most similar to Holyfield stylistically out of the current heavyweight boxers?
    You just burnt anyone who voted NO in the poll which is roughly ....... 85% right now with this single post . I cant believe even with other FEW posts on here explaining the similarities they are still oblivious and dumb enough to advertise it by actually posting on the thread !


    Only on boxing Scene can 85% get it wrong! That Street dope is another special type of ****** , must be related to mlac
    Last edited by juggernaut666; 01-26-2018, 05:26 AM.

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      #62
      Originally posted by Mr Objecitivity View Post
      Yes, they are similar. To claim they are "not one bit similar" is like me claiming a "tiger is not one but similar to a lion" when that's obviously false.

      Doesn't Holyfield have an excellent chin / punch resistance? So does Takam.

      Doesn't Holyfield throw excellent combination punches? So does Carlos Takam.

      Doesn't Holyfield box in the pocket / inside? So does Takam.

      Perhaps Holyfield is better than Takam and does those things better than Takam. But that's not the point! Two boxers can be stylistically similar with one being a better boxer and being better at using the same style.


      Yes, maybe Takam is more similar to Danny Garcia than he is to Evander Holyfield. However, the question isn't: 'who does Takam most closely resemble stylistically. The question is: who does Evander Holyfield most closely resemble out of the current heavyweights and Takam seems like he is closer to Holyfield stylistically than any other heavyweight today.

      Otherwise, who is most similar to Holyfield stylistically out of the current heavyweight boxers?
      If you are looking for a HW then Takam is similar to Ray Mercer. I don't see any similarity with Evander what so ever

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        #63
        Originally posted by Mr Objecitivity View Post
        Carlos Takam reminds me of a modern day Evander Holyfield in the way he boxes stylistically and the abilities that he displays during his boxing bouts.

        - Both very elusive

        - Both excellent counter punchers

        - Both have elite punch resistance

        - Both box like warriors with tremendous heart
        Yes, agreed both very similar boxing IQ, Holyfield was a good boxer for his time, but this era of the heavyweight division is where the big man rules.
        Hate to break it to the die-hard fans of Holyfield, but he would have lost to everyone Takam lost to.
        Takam is a very good fighter though, it seems in this era fans just want to trash talk heavyweights all the time maybe because they're not American.

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          #64
          Originally posted by Bumdre Ward View Post
          Yes, agreed both very similar boxing IQ, Holyfield was a good boxer for his time, but this era of the heavyweight division is where the big man rules.
          Hate to break it to the die-hard fans of Holyfield, but he would have lost to everyone Takam lost to.
          Takam is a very good fighter though, it seems in this era fans just want to trash talk heavyweights all the time maybe because they're not American.
          I agree with everything you stated! Good comment! Green K sent!

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            #65
            Originally posted by juggernaut666 View Post
            You just burnt anyone who voted NO in the poll which is roughly ....... 85% right now with this single post . I cant believe even with other FEW posts on here explaining the similarities they are still oblivious and dumb enough to advertise it by actually posting on the thread !


            Only on boxing Scene can 85% get it wrong! That Street dope is another special type of ****** , must be related to mlac
            Thanks! Green K sent!

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              #66
              Hahahahahahahhahahahahah

              Wtf is this a serious question?

              Completely different level of fighters

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                #67
                Originally posted by STREET CLEANER View Post
                If you are looking for a HW then Takam is similar to Ray Mercer. I don't see any similarity with Evander what so ever
                This thread isn't about who Carlos Takam resembles the most when comparing him to past heavyweights. Rather, it's about who Evander Holyfield resembles the most when he is compared to today's heavyweights. Perhaps Takam resembles Mercer more than Holyfield (I disagree). But which heavyweight today resembles Evander Holyfield the most?

                As for you 'not seeing any similarity whatsoever'. Every boxer has some similarities to every other boxer. No two boxers can ever be 100% dissimilar. Even if they aren't VERY similar, they will still share SOME similarities at least.

                Can we at least agree that Carlos Takam is more similar to Evander Holyfield and resembles Holyfield more than Nikolai Valuev does?

                There are many similarities between Takam and Holyfield:

                - As mentioned, both have similar left hooks.

                - Both are combination punching counter punchers who stay out of range and then step into range after making opponents miss or forcing them out of position. And then throw a counter punch which is followed by a combination of punches.

                - Both have very active guards.

                - Both use lateral movement against bigger sized opponents and more powerful opponents and attack and defend using in and out movement.

                There are plenty more similarities! If you can't see them, then that's a problem of yours.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Mr Objecitivity View Post
                  Carlos Takam reminds me of a modern day Evander Holyfield in the way he boxes stylistically and the abilities that he displays during his boxing bouts.

                  - Both very elusive

                  - Both excellent counter punchers

                  - Both have elite punch resistance

                  - Both box like warriors with tremendous heart
                  Hell no. Takam ia not even close to Holyfield's level.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by joseph5620 View Post
                    Hell no. Takam ia not even close to Holyfield's level.
                    This is not about 'levels' but style.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Mr Objecitivity View Post
                      Yes, because Muhammad Ali wasn't even a proper heavyweight by modern standard and would instead most likely be a cruiser weight or perhaps even a light heavyweight today, if he was boxing today.

                      You do realize that during Ali's era, the minimum weight one was required to be was merely 176 pounds (lighter than today's female boxing heavyweight division) to be a heavyweight, right? Majority of Ali's bouts were against boxers who would be considered cruiser weights and light heavyweights today, based on their size.

                      Larry Holmes has a better chance against modern heavyweights because he has more feats against modern sized heavyweights but Muhammad Ali was too small and majority of his opponents were too small to be even qualified as legitimate opponents for modern heavyweights like Anthony Joshua or the Klitschkos.

                      Just because I have a different inference on something (based on actual facts) compared to you, doesn't mean I'm trolling. I have reasons for why I concluded what I concluded.
                      Ali was 215 pounds when he fought the thrilla in Manila...
                      About 7 pounds smaller than Deontay wilder who is currently 39-0 in the modern division you claim is so elite ROFL... Ali knocked out a prime, undefeated George Foreman who weighed 220 pounds. Boxing is about skills, not who weighs more. Do you even box? LMAO not likely. Keep writing Harry Potter novel size responses, doesn’t change the fact you said Joshua is better than Lewis, Holmes & Ali... plz stop talking about boxing. Ali also weighed up to 236 pounds which is only 13 smaller than joshua. Lewis, Holmes & Ali ko Joshua and would destroy and dominate every heavyweight today. Join a gym.

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