Comments Thread For: Saunders: Golovkin is 35 Now, Can't Keep Up To Outbox Me

[kushking]

It isn't just boxers who decline in their 30's. Look at any individual sports that require high energy and athleticism at the top level. Female athletes are different, because they arn't stoked up with testosterone at their peaks. But it's very rare to see male athletes still winning top tournaments in their 30's nowadays, and none can do it consistently, like they could in their 20's.

GGG has been training hard and competing at world level, amateur and pro, for over 20 years now. Is he a hype-job or is he superhuman? A lot of people at this forum need to make their minds up about that, instead of trying to have their cake and eat it at the same time.

He is what he is, YOU need to learn reading comprehension.

Theres a difference between someone being a proven elite fighter that faced the best & still stayed young til age late 30s because he took care of himself & someone aging slower from going pro at an old age,

from never fighting anyone elite til age 34 & therefore by default having very short fights from all the bums he kod early.

I have always said ggg is a skilled fighter for his style with several flaws,whom has never proven it vs the best because hes afraid of losing his windfall from canelo sweepstakes,& he was someone who chased money & easy belts his whole career rather than sacrificing to be great. And ggg stays being used as a puppet by Sanchez & loeffler .

[Chuckguy]

In an IFL interview BJS says that his plan was always to wait till GGG was 35 before fighting him. At leat Bill is honest about it, unlike Canelo.

Bill lmfao hey well if it’s true props to him for admitting it

[kushking]

Everyone knows in boxing 35 is very old. No all time great at 35 was the same fighter they were in late 20's. When will he be past his prime? 37? 38? 45?

Nobody said they were better, just that hes not OLD since hes never taken punishment til age 34.

[satiev1]

It has more to do with how much damage they've endured,ggg hasn't aged in the ring with his fights mostly all only being a few rds & vs weak opposition.

Mayweather was able to fight pro til 38,he didn't get punished very much due to his style. GGG only went pro at age 24 too. Look at him vs canelo he went full 12 without gassing horribly like kovalev,hes not old he has just finally daring to be great & I have much more respect for him than I did before because of it. He still needs to face Jacobs again or move up to 168.

In one sense you are right though that surely a fighter whos 35 is past his prime,but theres plenty of reasons why ggg hasn't aged like many other fighters & certainly not enough to be considered old or an unimpressive win for anyone. Hes undefeated still so he should still count as a p4p win for anyone off that alone.

The amateur career he had takes a toll as well dumbie. Also mayweather was way past his prime at 38. His legs were gone. Gassing has nothing to do with age. As you get older you lose your reflexes and get slower.

[Snoop Frog]

Make it happen!

[kushking]

The amateur career he had takes a toll as well dumbie. Also mayweather was way past his prime at 38. His legs were gone. Gassing has nothing to do with age. As you get older you lose your reflexes and get slower.

It has NOWHERE NEAR the amount of a toll pros takes "dumbie" he was fighting between 3-4 rds with protection on vs amateurs. Compare that with canelo who fought in jr olympics & won silver,then went pro at age 15 & has amassed 51 fights by age 27,3 yrs longer than ggg went pro at.

[rrayvez]

1st off I've grown tired of arguing with ggg fanbois about the nonsense excuses they have for ggg not fighting ANYONE elite til age 34 when he was FORCED to.

Thats a bunch of BS your claiming about him being ducked & you know it theres been plenty of good/excellent fighters who have been willing to fight ggg but he never sacrificed to be great.

He made a career jmw whos smaller than him his legacy fight & has avoided ANYONE elite thats bigger than him by as much as he is bigger than Canelo whos only 5'8.5 tall.

Ggg has proven many times how full of shît hes ALWAYS been about wanting the best,hes ALWAYS been a puppet doing as hes told & he was content with that as long as it guaranteed easy wins & vacant belts.

GGG could've forced Cotto into a fight instead of accepting step aside fee like a hypocrite he is, saying"all I want is the belts" yet only when the WBC was forcing (on gggs behalf) Canelo into a 15 day deadline purse bid of 55/45%(while in middle of trial over whos his rightful promoter) only then did ggg force his mando status.

But when he was cottos mando he didn't want to negotiate even a single lb to face tiny cotto that had (despite being 4 lbs lighter @weigh in vs both) kod geale better than ggg did & cotto kod martinez & became lineal while doing something ggg has yet to accomplish STILL: which is beating an actual full/lineal champion,ggg has ALWAYS had many chances to fight the best but he has ALWAYS been a lying "businessman" who does what ****** Sanchez tells him to do or say,because he wants the easiest path to money possible.

ohhh ok. Yeah, he should've just enforced his mandatory against cotto and forced him to fight. Why didn't I think of that? Maybe it's because anyone with sense knows that cotto would've just dropped the belt and fought Canelo anyway. After all, he wound up dropping the belt the week of the Canelo fight anyway. Ggg did try to enforce his mandatory status vs canelo, so why didn't that work? Oh, it's because canelo also dropped his belt. And as far as easiest path to money, no easier path than taking ppv Fights vs khan, beefy Smith and Chavez jr. Wouldn't you say?

[Cutthroat]

Go look at track and field athletes. Show me the best times athletes run in sprints, middle distance, or even long distance, and their age. Compare all of their times from 21 - 40, let me know how they look. Remove the obvious drug cheats(such as athletes who have been banned for a year or so, like Gatlin) and show me.

Go ahead, try and dispute it, lmfao. How ridiculous. Some of you fatass NSB posters are so incredibly biased with hate that you come off as incredibly ******.

You can't compare running to boxing, you need to be at your physical peak to perform at your highest in running. I brought up Bolt as one of many examples of the affects of modern science on athletes, a 6'5 man running that fast is unheard of.

Boxers benefit from experience far more so than runners, ggg NEEDED that Jacobs fight, he became a better fighter after that. Do you think the 30 year old version that struggled mightily with Ouma beats Canelo?

[kushking]

ohhh ok. Yeah, he should've just enforced his mandatory against cotto and forced him to fight. Why didn't I think of that? Maybe it's because anyone with sense knows that cotto would've just dropped the belt and fought Canelo anyway. After all, he wound up dropping the belt the week of the Canelo fight anyway. Ggg did try to enforce his mandatory status vs canelo, so why didn't that work? Oh, it's because canelo also dropped his belt. And as far as easiest path to money, no easier path than taking ppv Fights vs khan, beefy Smith and Chavez jr. Wouldn't you say?

The difference is that Canelo had already sacrificed & fought several elite fighters & is only 27 with his p4p#1 resume.

And ggg could've at least gotten the free belt he so clearly was after when he forced a 15 day purse bid deadline,he had no problem trying to get ANOTHER free vacant belt from canelo but had he gotten it off cotto he couldve been unified champ by now & gotten way more money from canelo in negotiations,but since hes a fake hes been saying he "only wants all the belts" then jumps at any money fight he can or bum fight or both,& him fighting Brook weeks after saying a welter jumping 8 lbs is a disgrace to boxing,is far worse than canelo fighting kahn as ggg made brook jump 13 lbs not 8.

And canelo fighting smith on ppv so what he was undefeated wbo champ & sold 350k ppv,& Chávez jr sold 1.3 mil ppv which makes it an even bigger joke that ggg was demanding canelo jump through hoops AFTER jumping to all Brooks demands & fighting for a flat 5 mil zero ppv upside,& just as was proven already ggg is a box office flop,his ppv with canelo barely outsold chavez jr ffs & your fanboi ass was claiming"ggg deserves more than 15 million",& most ggg fanbois were crying canelo was supposedly gonna make 200 million or some dumb sh. :Lol1:

Admit it ggg was pricing himself out & only had 100k ppvs to his name

[satiev1]

It has NOWHERE NEAR the amount of a toll pros takes "dumbie" he was fighting between 3-4 rds with protection on vs amateurs. Compare that with canelo who fought in jr olympics & won silver,then went pro at age 15 & has amassed 51 fights by age 27,3 yrs longer than ggg went pro at.

You clearly don't know **** about boxing becaues if you did you would know that 400 amateur fights headgear or not takes a huge toll on you. And canelo only had 14 fights more against unknown mexican bums at an early age. You make it sound like canelo had so many more pro fights. And GGG was facing the best in the world in the amateurs while canelo's first 30 fights were against cab drivers. GGG's toll > canelo's not even close. Regardless he didn't take punishment as a pro, mid 30's you lose your legs, reflexes, and speed. If you disagree with that you're a moron.