Comments Thread For: Saunders: Golovkin is 35 Now, Can't Keep Up To Outbox Me

[Cutthroat]

In the hundreds of years, better yet thousands of years of competitive sports what athlete gets better beyond their early 30s? I keep telling folks on here, as someone on the tail end of their 30s even as a non-athlete you feel the slide. Unless you are using something you are sliding no matter what..in some cases genetics favors people so it's not as visible but ain't no way in hell an athlete isn't declining after like 31/32..they might able to muster a masterful performance but definitely not the same way or with the same consistency as they could in their 20's.

The difference between those past generations and now is that it's 2017. Our science has advanced exponentially over the years, and athletes have been some of the biggest beneficiaries of that.

-48 year old Hopkins won a title at 175.
-41 year old Klitschko came in at his lightest weight since '09 against AJ, an old HW losing weight is UNHEARD of.
-Povetkin peaked after 35
-Kovalev is 34 and is arguably getting better
-Rumors are Ortiz is near 50 years old
-Heavies like Mansour are in phenomenal shape and were capable of fighting well into their 40's

etc. even in other sports we're seeing some crazy things, we're seeing athletes come back from injuries that used to be career ending faster than ever with no problem like achillies tears. We're seeing 6'5 athletes like Usain Bolt break sprinting records, 6'11 405lb tackles in football like LaQuan McGowan run a 5.49 40 yard dash or 6'6 305lb Terron Armstead run a 4.65 40, NFL prospects like Josh Imatorbhebhe with a 47 inch vertical etc. even in boxing, who has ever been built like AJ and moved like him? What about the Fury bros, who else their size has moved as fluidly? Who has hit as hard as Wilder? etc. in basketball we're seeing 6'11 players play the point like Durant and Antetokounmpo, that's unheard of in previous eras.

ggg is at the peak of his experience and he hasn't fallen off that much physically as people insinuate. He needed the Jacobs fight to prep him against Canelo, he lacked the experience at the top level to compete. As late as 30 he was barely able to beat Kassim Ouma of all people.

[kafkod]

So he is admiting to waiting him out and letting him get old?

Yeah, well at least saunders makes it obvious that he was waiting out ggg until he got old. There's video of him saying he wasn't ready. Now once there were back to back signs of decline with brook and more so jacobs, now everyone has new found balls.

In an IFL interview BJS says that his plan was always to wait till GGG was 35 before fighting him. At leat Bill is honest about it, unlike Canelo.

[UNBIASED BOXING]

The difference between those past generations and now is that it's 2017. Our science has advanced exponentially over the years, and athletes have been some of the biggest beneficiaries of that.

-48 year old Hopkins won a title at 175.
-41 year old Klitschko came in at his lightest weight since '09 against AJ, an old HW losing weight is UNHEARD of.
-Povetkin peaked after 35
-Kovalev is 34 and is arguably getting better
-Rumors are Ortiz is near 50 years old
-Heavies like Mansour are in phenomenal shape and were capable of fighting well into their 40's

etc. even in other sports we're seeing some crazy things, we're seeing athletes come back from injuries that used to be career ending faster than ever with no problem like achillies tears. We're seeing 6'5 athletes like Usain Bolt break sprinting records, 6'11 405lb tackles in football like LaQuan McGowan run a 5.49 40 yard dash or 6'6 305lb Terron Armstead run a 4.65 40, NFL prospects like Josh Imatorbhebhe with a 47 inch vertical etc. even in boxing, who has ever been built like AJ and moved like him? What about the Fury bros, who else their size has moved as fluidly? Who has hit as hard as Wilder? etc. in basketball we're seeing 6'11 players play the point like Durant and Antetokounmpo, that's unheard of in previous eras.

ggg is at the peak of his experience and he hasn't fallen off that much physically as people insinuate. He needed the Jacobs fight to prep him against Canelo, he lacked the experience at the top level to compete. As late as 30 he was barely able to beat Kassim Ouma of all people.

Go look at track and field athletes. Show me the best times athletes run in sprints, middle distance, or even long distance, and their age. Compare all of their times from 21 - 40, let me know how they look. Remove the obvious drug cheats(such as athletes who have been banned for a year or so, like Gatlin) and show me.

Go ahead, try and dispute it, lmfao. How ridiculous. Some of you fatass NSB posters are so incredibly biased with hate that you come off as incredibly ******.

[kafkod]

In the hundreds of years, better yet thousands of years of competitive sports what athlete gets better beyond their early 30s? I keep telling folks on here, as someone on the tail end of their 30s even as a non-athlete you feel the slide. Unless you are using something you are sliding no matter what..in some cases genetics favors people so it's not as visible but ain't no way in hell an athlete isn't declining after like 31/32..they might able to muster a masterful performance but definitely not the same way or with the same consistency as they could in their 20's.

It has more to do with how much damage they've endured,ggg hasn't aged in the ring with his fights mostly all only being a few rds & vs weak opposition.

Mayweather was able to fight pro til 38,he didn't get punished very much due to his style. GGG only went pro at age 24 too. Look at him vs canelo he went full 12 without gassing horribly like kovalev,hes not old he has just finally daring to be great & I have much more respect for him than I did before because of it. He still needs to face Jacobs again or move up to 168.

In one sense you are right though that surely a fighter whos 35 is past his prime,but theres plenty of reasons why ggg hasn't aged like many other fighters & certainly not enough to be considered old or an unimpressive win for anyone. Hes undefeated still so he should still count as a p4p win for anyone off that alone.

It isn't just boxers who decline in their 30's. Look at any individual sports that require high energy and athleticism at the top level. Female athletes are different, because they arn't stoked up with testosterone at their peaks. But it's very rare to see male athletes still winning top tournaments in their 30's nowadays, and none can do it consistently, like they could in their 20's.

GGG has been training hard and competing at world level, amateur and pro, for over 20 years now. Is he a hype-job or is he superhuman? A lot of people at this forum need to make their minds up about that, instead of trying to have their cake and eat it at the same time.

[M Bison]

35yo isn't old... What has happened to the world, you're in your mid 30's and people suddenly think that you should retire...
A fighter who fights like GGG does can possibly fight longer than most fighter because he doesn't rely on being lightning quick, but hey look at Floyd and Pacquiao in their late 30's they were quicker than guys in their 20's so this really doesn't fly.

[Mammoth]

Golovkin would get Lemieux'd

It'd be funny if Saunders beats him (which is possible) but it ain't gonna be that wide if he does. Good fight.

[mathed]

GGG would break Saunders down and stop him.

[yoshik]

LOL! You hope. He will blow you away. BJS looked good against a stationary, faded Lemieux. GGG will beat the sh it out of BJS.

[Snoop Frog]

I think BJS is the best pure boxer at 160, but he doesn't have the power Jacobs and Canelo had to keep GGG honest. GGG Tko.

Great points. Yeah, I was really, really impressed with his movement in the Lemieux fight. Plus, I have to give him credit for a building a decent resume with wins over Eubank Jr., Andy Lee, and Lemieux. GGG, though, is an expert at cutting the ring off and won't chase him like Lemieux did.

[satiev1]

Thats a bunch of bs about his supposed decline,hes the exact same fighter as hes ALWAYS been. Hes just started showing that he was never this monster gggroupies said he was & as soon as he finally stepped up it showed.(just as I said it would) Instead of other fighters finally growing balls its actually just him becoming willing to fight good opponents he avoided til age 34,he was unwilling to step up for fear of losing his canelo payday & was forced into fighting Jacobs whos the only good fighter besides canelo hes fought.

Everyone knows in boxing 35 is very old. No all time great at 35 was the same fighter they were in late 20's. When will he be past his prime? 37? 38? 45?