Wilder vs Stiverne purses (Stiverne won't get the step-aside money)

[john l]

Well this site isn't going to stop recognizing the IBO as long as the IBO is paying them for recognition.

Well if we really stuck together and their HITS went way down it would hurt all of their ad money.But I know it almost surly never happen because people don't do s hite anymore but *****.But WE are more powerfull then WE think. oh well I can dream.

[john l]

I'm no calling for either fight, they're both terrible IMO I just give him a pass fighting for 4m then fulfilling a mandatory obligation thereafter.

I think it kinda come down to"we are not going to let you tell us who we HAVE to fight.I mean Wilders and his people are not just gonna let Hearn tell them what to do.And like I think we both agree Whtye is not somone who NEEDS to be takin care of at least not yet.I really think Hearn is scared to put such a monster cash cow in with Wilder,whyte he has and plus his boy already beat him so a loss to Whyte would not be nearly as bad from Hearn's standpoint.I think Joshua would fight him next.But he the thing he IS BIG enough now that he COULD tell Hearn"make fight now".So we will have to see

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Well if we really stuck together and their HITS went way down it would hurt all of their ad money.But I know it almost surly never happen because people don't do s hite anymore but *****.But WE are more powerfull then WE think. oh well I can dream.

The best thing that could be done is for fans to become more educated about the sanctioning bodies. The media has done a terrible job of honestly covering the sport and that is a large reason why we have so many recognized bodies.

If fans better understood why the bodies exist and how they operate and if the media covered them honestly, before long you would only have one or two recognized bodies (most likely the WBC and IBF).

Even if we could just go back to three bodies, it would be a huge improvement for the sport. But two is ideal.

I know fans say ONE CHAMPION! ONE CHAMPION! But it's not realistic. There's never been one champion in the history of boxing, going all the way back to IBU, NYSAC, NBA, etc.

The best chance for "one champion" was actually five champions. Indivudal WBC, WBA, IBF and WBO champions, with the four organizations agreeing to NEVER refer to their champions as world champion and then a separate undisputed world champion agreed upon by all four bodies. It sucks that the WBO wouldn't do it.

[john l]

The best thing that could be done is for fans to become more educated about the sanctioning bodies. The media has done a terrible job of honestly covering the sport and that is a large reason why we have so many recognized bodies.

If fans better understood why the bodies exist and how they operate and if the media covered them honestly, before long you would only have one or two recognized bodies (most likely the WBC and IBF).

Even if we could just go back to three bodies, it would be a huge improvement for the sport. But two is ideal.

I know fans say ONE CHAMPION! ONE CHAMPION! But it's not realistic. There's never been one champion in the history of boxing, going all the way back to IBU, NYSAC, NBA, etc.

The best chance for "one champion" was actually five champions. Indivudal WBC, WBA, IBF and WBO champions, with the four organizations agreeing to NEVER refer to their champions as world champion and then a separate undisputed world champion agreed upon by all four bodies. It sucks that the WBO wouldn't do it.

I agree with a lot you say and I know all about NBA and even NY title ect.But for most part there was one clear champ until what 70s.But I could not agree more about anyway to get less title's.And I do think pressure from fans can help.I know the RING,KO and few other did not name WBO and it was along time before they got any real foothold.If the BWAA agreed to not name any of them and just went with THE RING or Trans con would be huge.And I see no reason unless they are being paid by these crooks not to do it.

[john l]

The best thing that could be done is for fans to become more educated about the sanctioning bodies. The media has done a terrible job of honestly covering the sport and that is a large reason why we have so many recognized bodies.

If fans better understood why the bodies exist and how they operate and if the media covered them honestly, before long you would only have one or two recognized bodies (most likely the WBC and IBF).

Even if we could just go back to three bodies, it would be a huge improvement for the sport. But two is ideal.

I know fans say ONE CHAMPION! ONE CHAMPION! But it's not realistic. There's never been one champion in the history of boxing, going all the way back to IBU, NYSAC, NBA, etc.

The best chance for "one champion" was actually five champions. Indivudal WBC, WBA, IBF and WBO champions, with the four organizations agreeing to NEVER refer to their champions as world champion and then a separate undisputed world champion agreed upon by all four bodies. It sucks that the WBO wouldn't do it.

It would work for all the writer of the bigger sites like ESPM,ect because they are not talkin any money from alph bit boys at least not on top of table.

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If the BWAA agreed to not name any of them and just went with THE RING or Trans con would be huge.And I see no reason unless they are being paid by these crooks not to do it.

Ring ****zine, unfortunately, was purchased by Oscar De La Hoya. Ever since, he has interfered with the ratings, causing all of the reputable journalists to quit the ****zine. Ring has broken their rules whenever it benefited an HBO fighter or harmed a Showtime fighter. Ring has changed their rules whenever it benefited an HBO fighter or harmed a Showtime fighter. At this point, Ring is less credible than the WBU.

[N!Ck F.]

According to Dan Rafael

Purses for the Showtime card on Saturday night at Barclays Center in Brooklyn, New York:

Deontay Wilder $1.4 million
Bermane Stiverne $506,250
Shawn Porter $500k
Adrian Granados $200k
Sergei Lipinets $75k
Akihiro Kondo $15k
Dominic Breazeale $250k
Eric Molina $90k.

And reading Dan's twitter timeline, it appears as if Stiverne won't get the step aside money:

After tax that’s like 300k...
Don king probably takes 30%
That’s 200k left...trainer, cutman,travel,food,camp expenses etc prob 100k left after everything... that was a serious beating for 100k.

[john l]

Ring ****zine, unfortunately, was purchased by Oscar De La Hoya. Ever since, he has interfered with the ratings, causing all of the reputable journalists to quit the ****zine. Ring has broken their rules whenever it benefited an HBO fighter or harmed a Showtime fighter. Ring has changed their rules whenever it benefited an HBO fighter or harmed a Showtime fighter. At this point, Ring is less credible than the WBU.

I don't agree I hated it when ODLA brought mag.BUT have not SEEN ANY fav with GB fighters in their rankings.And NO WAY can you compare them to ANY alpha bit group much less WBU I don't even like writing their name.But really I can see why people will,could think that but look at their ratings and show me one that has no buis being there.I think the worst dec right now is that they have not takin Fury out as champ(although I think its coming real soon) but he has nothing to do with GB.

[john l]

After tax that’s like 300k...
Don king probably takes 30%
That’s 200k left...trainer, cutman,travel,food,camp expenses etc prob 100k left after everything... that was a serious beating for 100k.

most fighter get about 30% net after everthing maybe little less.If they are dumb and sign with two promoters at same time(like pac with GB when ODLH pulled the old Don King trick and showed up with bag full of cash)then maybe 25%.Guys like Joshua and esp Floyd get more closer to 40%.

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I don't agree I hated it when ODLA brought mag.BUT have not SEEN ANY fav with GB fighters in their rankings.And NO WAY can you compare them to ANY alpha bit group much less WBU I don't even like writing their name.But really I can see why people will,could think that but look at their ratings and show me one that has no buis being there.I think the worst dec right now is that they have not takin Fury out as champ(although I think its coming real soon) but he has nothing to do with GB.