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Will Rigondeaux's textbook footwork beat Lomachenko's unorthodox footwork?

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    #41
    Originally posted by g27region View Post
    It doesn't matter because Rigondeaux was never stunned with these knockdowns.




    maybe i'll give you the first one, but why does he hold on immediately after he gets up?

    and the second knockdown, where he eats huge shots that rock his head backward and send him staggering? am i supposed to forget that happened?


    and i'll just delete the final sentence of your post, because i have no idea why you'd even write it

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      #42
      Originally posted by g27region View Post
      It's not like a lot of time passed since the moment when Lomachenko was 126 lber too


      ignore the fact that your "big japanese guy" fought at 122 lbs against rigondeaux, and has never won a fight outside of a small club in japan.

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        #43
        Originally posted by New England View Post


        maybe i'll give you the first one, but why does he hold on immediately after he gets up?

        and the second knockdown, where he eats huge shots that rock his head backward and send him staggering? am i supposed to forget that happened?


        and i'll just delete the final sentence of your post, because i have no idea why you'd even write it
        The point is, what if Rigondeaux can get dropped when he recovers fast (remember Donaire fight when Rigo got up and continued to school Nonito like nothing happened?) and his opponents can't finish the job? I don't remember any episode of any fight when Rigo was visibly hurt, stunned or trying to survive as a result. Maybe you can refresh my memory but I don't remember if something like that happened to Rigo before. Maybe only with Cordoba but I have to rewatch that fight

        All this talk about fighters being "chinny" only because they got dropped before is BS, your ability to recover matters more than that, Kovalev didn't get dropped but he was done just after 1 good punch from Ward and wasn't able to recover, that was the point of my message

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          #44
          Originally posted by g27region View Post
          It doesn't matter because Rigondeaux was never stunned with these knockdowns. It'd be better to get dropped like Rigondeaux than getting beat down to a pulp and KO'd while you're standing like Kudryashov/Duradola or Ward/Kovalev
          Possibly not but it puts him down by two points.

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            #45
            Originally posted by New England View Post
            ignore the fact that your "big japanese guy" fought at 122 lbs against rigondeaux, and has never won a fight outside of a small club in japan.
            It doesn't matter. The point is Rigo was able to hurt guys bigger than him, yes there's a big talent gap between them and Lomachenko, but don't act like Lomachenko can't get touched at all

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              #46
              Originally posted by TonyGe View Post
              Possibly not but it puts him down by two points.
              And that's the only advantage hs opponents could get from KD's so far

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                #47
                Originally posted by g27region View Post
                And that's the only advantage hs opponents could get from KD's so far
                Not saying he can't win but if he goes down two points he's in a deep hole against a guy as talented as Lomo. I don't care who wins as long as there is no controversy.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by g27region View Post
                  You're overrating Lomachenko or underrating Rigondeaux who's one of the best amateurs ever lived.

                  400 wins, do I have to remind you that? He might be the best, or one of the best Cuban boxer ever too. He's ATG and living legend of amateur boxing and you say that kind of talent would lose THAT easily to Lomachenko? Plus they have stipulated weight clause for Loma anyway
                  Respectfully, I am not underating Rigo in any way. Have you watched his last few fights? He has been able to overcome adversity because of his tremendous talent but these haven't been Loma level fighters.

                  Loma, IMO has all the technical skill that Rigo does. He will also have probably a 10 lb weight advantage to go along with being significantly younger (especially given we don't know how old rigo really is).

                  I've been watching the sport a long time and while nothing is 100% absolute, the good big man beating a good little man is as close to it.

                  I have the upmost respect for Rigo. I just think Loma right now is bigger, stronger, as fast and as good.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by pesticid View Post
                    Not really - Duran vs Leonard, Duran vs Barkley, Leonard vs Hagler, Pacquiao vs DLH, Guillermo Jones going up in weight and Holyfield too. Andre Ward vs Kovalev. Bhop vs Tarver, Martinez vs Pavlik, Cotto vs Martinez, Mayweather vs Castillo, Mayweather vs DLH, Mayweather vs DLH. James Toney eating all the way to heavyweight. Juan Guzman when he was going up in weight. JMM vs Casamayor, Tito vs Joppy, Bellew and Hay fighting as heavyweight and winning. Shane Mosley going up in weight to fight DLH. Winky Wright vs Jermain Taylor. Ouma vs Jantuah. Canelo vs GGG.
                    Respectfully, do you think this list supports my point or refutes it? frankly, that you can name these fights so easily, and you've listed like 10, that only makes my point for me.

                    Take Hagler-lost to SRL, beat Hearns, Duran, Mugabi. Just as an example.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
                      Respectfully, I am not underating Rigo in any way. Have you watched his last few fights? He has been able to overcome adversity because of his tremendous talent but these haven't been Loma level fighters.

                      Loma, IMO has all the technical skill that Rigo does. He will also have probably a 10 lb weight advantage to go along with being significantly younger (especially given we don't know how old rigo really is).

                      I've been watching the sport a long time and while nothing is 100% absolute, the good big man beating a good little man is as close to it.

                      I have the upmost respect for Rigo. I just think Loma right now is bigger, stronger, as fast and as good.
                      I promise that Rigondeaux won't go quiet and will make Lomachenko work HARD for the win. You'll see

                      Plus he has some advantages too
                      Rigo might have a longer reach which can be very important for a fighter who loves to fight on the outside like Rigo. Basically, a guy who will impose his comfortable distance wins this fight and Rigo has some tools to do that
                      Last edited by g27region; 11-14-2017, 09:35 AM.

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