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    #71
    A win against Molina should get Breazeale a fight against Whyte, not Wilder. Granted Whyte put on a poor show against Helenius ("are we not entertained?" no we ******* weren't), but fighting the number 12 Molina should not be an eliminator for anything.

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      #72
      Originally posted by juggernaut666 View Post
      Breazeale wouldn't care if ge got less for Molina bc a win gets him more money against Wilder ,in the process a win gets him a title so the money position wouldn't make sense to take a Whyte fight and risk it bc Molina is by far more winnable .
      Aside from Stiverne, Wilder's opponents have been fighting for peanuts - 100-250k, and that's for title defenses.. Washington got the best deal (250k) because he's a Haymon fighter. Breazeale reportedly got close to a million for the Joshua fight. I would not be surprised if Hearn's offer to fight Whyte was around 500k ("substantial" according to Hearn), which would be more than what he would probably net from both the Molina and (potentially) Wilder fights. I would guess he's fighting Molina for around 200k. Plus, if he beat Whyte he would have still gotten the Wilder fight. I think besides having too high expectations (after the Wildrer 4 million offer) Breazeale was just stopped by Haymon so they can set up the circus with Molina.

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        #73
        Originally posted by nixxter View Post
        Aside from Stiverne, Wilder's opponents have been fighting for peanuts - 100-250k, and that's for title defenses.. Washington got the best deal (250k) because he's a Haymon fighter. Breazeale reportedly got close to a million for the Joshua fight. I would not be surprised if Hearn's offer to fight Whyte was around 500k ("substantial" according to Hearn), which would be more than what he would probably net from both the Molina and (potentially) Wilder fights. I would guess he's fighting Molina for around 200k. Plus, if he beat Whyte he would have still gotten the Wilder fight. I think besides having too high expectations (after the Wildrer 4 million offer) Breazeale was just stopped by Haymon so they can set up the circus with Molina.
        Hearn said substantial. And Breazeale said not even in the ballpark. Said he was surprised at how low it was. You choose to believe the promoter.

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          #74
          Originally posted by Wibble View Post
          A win against Molina should get Breazeale a fight against Whyte, not Wilder. Granted Whyte put on a poor show against Helenius ("are we not entertained?" no we ******* weren't), but fighting the number 12 Molina should not be an eliminator for anything.
          To be fair to the WBC it is a step in the right direction over how Stiverne got to be mandatory. At least Breazeale is having to fight someone ranked to gain mandatory status. Even if it still falls well short of ideal they are at least getting closer to the mark.


          But you aren't wrong

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            #75
            rules are rules.. and the rules do stipulate for whatever bull**** reasoning that breazeale has his right to a final eliminator..

            The only problem is that a final eliminator oppopnent should be someone worthy of that and Molina simply isnt. His ranking isnt even worthy whether or not someone feels personally he may or may not be.

            Funnily enough, he's a Don King fighter...

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              #76
              Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
              Hearn said substantial. And Breazeale said not even in the ballpark. Said he was surprised at how low it was. You choose to believe the promoter.
              It's just my guess based on the information available. Considering how much he got for the Joshua fight and the 4 million offer to Wilder, I think Breazeale has a different opinion to Hearn on what substantial is. US (and not only) fighters seem to think Hearn should automatically offer them a few times more than their usual purse.

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                #77
                Originally posted by nixxter View Post
                Again, there was no contract signed for the Breazeale -
                Stiverne fight. And we don't know what happened with that Stiverne step-aside money and how in hell he got elevated back to mandatory position. After Wilder - Stiverne II was announced, Breazeale was dropped from the event and he was looking for opponents. He wanted a substantial amount (probably seven figures) to fight Whyte on Joshua - Takam's undercard. Haymon advised Breazeale not to take the Whyte fight and offered him to fight Molina instead. You can bet he's fighting Molina for a few times less what he was offered to fight Whyte as you can bet Wilder will be fighting Breazeale for a chunk of what he was offered to fight Whyte.
                Dude why u keep saying was no contract it was stated numerous times in every article the conditions of stiverne stepping aside for wilder/Ortiz to take place, because it doesn’t fit your narrative you keep mentioning about contract like we see any contracts fighters agree to lol

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by nixxter View Post
                  It's just my guess based on the information available. Considering how much he got for the Joshua fight and the 4 million offer to Wilder, I think Breazeale has a different opinion to Hearn on what substantial is. US (and not only) fighters seem to think Hearn should automatically offer them a few times more than their usual purse.
                  Maybe. Either way he said it wasn't even in the ballpark. And so he moved on. End of story. But I'm glad we're sticking with facts. Saw some posters on here conjuring up some nefarious schemes that reeked of the usual BS that gets regurgitated among boxing circles.

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by Travycat View Post
                    Sweet comeback! And might I add, you have zero understanding of sarcasm. Don't let the unchecked ego run something as mundane as a reply on a message board. Have a GREAT evening!
                    Dillian would batter Molina and Breazale ,no problem !!!

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by SchoolTheseCats View Post
                      Dude why u keep saying was no contract it was stated numerous times in every article the conditions of stiverne stepping aside for wilder/Ortiz to take place, because it doesn’t fit your narrative you keep mentioning about contract like we see any contracts fighters agree to lol
                      I said "no contract signed" meaning I don't believe there was anything signed/finalised on Breazeale's side. When the Stiverne fight fell through Breazeale started negotiations with Hearn to fight Whyte on Joshua-Takam's undercard. Only after that came the Breazeale-Molina talks. And whether Stiverne actually signed anything, be it a step-aside agreement and/or a separate agreement to fight Breazeale, we don't know. But considering how Wilder-Stiverne II was officially announced and later we learned Stiverne hadn't even yet signed the contract, and it took him a couple of weeks to do so, makes me have my doubts.

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