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    #31
    Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
    Haymon doesn't keep things in house. His fighters have fought on every banner, including Top Rank and GBP.

    Crawford-Molina
    Canelo-Chavez Jr
    Crawford-Diaz
    GGG-Jacobs
    GGG-Wade

    And so forth.

    In all of those examples, it was a division Haymon had little control over and other than the Jacobs fight, Haymon was risking nothing.

    Haymon picks out divisions and tries to gain control of all of the non-WBO belts. If it's not a division he's focused on, he'll gladly allow one of his less important fighters to go make a big pay day.

    The only fight you listed above where the loss harmed Haymon at all was the Jacobs fight and that fight was ordered by the WBA and it was a division Haymon had no control over because GGG had all of the non-WBO belts.

    Haymon's middleweight take over is coming soon. He plans his attacks on a division years in advance.

    The fights you listed create the illusion that Haymon doesn't keep things in house, but when you analyze the strategies he utilizes to control specific divisions, only having his champions defend against in house fighters whenever possible is the rule, not the exception. No different than Arum or King before him. This is how you accumulate power in boxing.

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      #32
      Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra View Post
      Crawford said he wants to fight Thurman when he moves up to welterweight. Bob says Crawford is going to Australia to watch Pacquiao v. Horn II and Crawford might fight the winner. That's cool. Nothing wrong with that. He can pick up a strap and be ready to unify with Thurman right? Right?






      WRONG!!!

      That's bull****. Crawford is good enough to beat all the guys at WW.. We don't need to see him against bums in 147. He should fight Mikey then Horn.. Horn is a easy touch and easy way to get a title at 147. After that he can face a guys like DSG or Porter before going for a title holder like Thurman or Spence.

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        #33
        Bob Arum is a joke.

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          #34
          Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF View Post
          In all of those examples, it was a division Haymon had little control over and other than the Jacobs fight, Haymon was risking nothing.

          Haymon picks out divisions and tries to gain control of all of the non-WBO belts. If it's not a division he's focused on, he'll gladly allow one of his less important fighters to go make a big pay day.

          The only fight you listed above where the loss harmed Haymon at all was the Jacobs fight and that fight was ordered by the WBA and it was a division Haymon had no control over because GGG had all of the non-WBO belts.

          Haymon's middleweight take over is coming soon. He plans his attacks on a division years in advance.

          The fights you listed create the illusion that Haymon doesn't keep things in house, but when you analyze the strategies he utilizes to control specific divisions, only having his champions defend against in house fighters whenever possible is the rule, not the exception. No different than Arum or King before him. This is how you accumulate power in boxing.
          Those weren't in house fights no matter how you slice it. Whatever your excuse is.
          Last edited by IMDAZED; 08-20-2017, 12:29 AM.

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            #35
            Would rather see Crawford vs Vargas in Cali. Preferably at the Stubhub Center

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              #36
              Seen this coming a million miles away!

              TheBobFather on that sh!+ again!

              Crawford's time at the pound for pound stops at 147!

              A resume at 147 of Alvarado, Vargas and Horn just won't cut it!

              He needs to find a way to buy out his contract!

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                #37
                Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
                Those weren't in house fights no matter how you slice it. Whatever your excuse is.
                The point of in house fights is to make sure you don't lose power regardless of who loses the fight. Haymon has 200 fighters, can't keep them all active, and will gladly sell one of them as an opponent if a loss doesn't result in him losing any power in one of the divisions he's heavily invested in.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF View Post
                  The point of in house fights is to make sure you don't lose power regardless of who loses the fight. Haymon has 200 fighters, can't keep them all active, and will gladly sell one of them as an opponent if a loss doesn't result in him losing any power in one of the divisions he's heavily invested in.
                  So you're saying he gave Jacobs, Khan, Molina to other promoters for their cards because he couldn't keep them busy? Does this make sense to you?

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                    #39
                    Of course he is. He needs someone to keep him busy while he waits for Horn to beat Pac again by controversial decision.

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                      #40
                      he would certainly dance circles around Thurman. easy work. would love to see him against Spence

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