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    Originally posted by original zero View Post
    just gave you a recent example of it happening. you just don't like the example so now you're moving the goal posts. mayweather defended both titles. he didn't have a 154 pound mandatory because the 154 pound #1 didn't want a title shot yet. period. end of story.

    it's not my fault you have no idea how this sport works. the WBC won't order a mandatory defense against a fighter who doesn't want a title shot yet.

    canelo could have demanded a title shot, he didn't. he didn't because he had been recently embarrassed by mayweather and didn't want a rematch anytime soon.
    Again the mandatory challenger has nothing to do with what canelo wants stop lying and making this a factor. WBC enforces a challenger whether Canelo wants the fight or not. If he doesn't per their rules they move to the next fighter. How you think you get championship mandatory fights with the champ vs the 5th or 6th ranked fighter? Because the first 4-5 guys turned down the fight they don't just sit and wait 2 years to name a fighter you loser. Not only you lied about canelo being the mandatory and Suliman himself disputes this saying they did not make a mandatory for Floyd and that they were making an exception only for him. So first you say the WBC is not corrupt and are just truthful souls yet they lied all those 2 years and secretively waiting on Canelo? Stick to one story you h0e. I'm waiting on your examples of this ever happening where a the WBC refused to name a mandatory challenger and let that fighter fight for 2 years outside the weight class and without facing a mandatory?

    How much does Haymon pay you to try and do damage control for him on these boards?
    Last edited by bigdunny1; 05-30-2017, 07:15 PM.

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      Originally posted by bigdunny1 View Post
      Again the mandatory challenger has nothing to do with what canelo wants stop lying and making this a factor. WBC enforces a challenger whether Canelo wants the fight or not. If he doesn't per their rules they move to the next fighter. How you think you get championship mandatory fights with the champ vs the 5th or 6th ranked fighter? Because the first 4-5 guys turned down the fight they don't just sit and wait 2 years to name a fighter you loser. Not only you lied about canelo being the mandatory and Suliman himself disputes this saying they did not make a mandatory for Floyd and that they were making an exception only for him. So first you say the WBC is not corrupt and are just truthful souls yet they lied all those 2 years and secretively waiting on Canelo?

      How much does Haymon pay you to try and do damage control for him on these boards?
      These mayweather fanbois are just like gggroupies. EVERYONE knows mayweather was never forced to fight ANYONE,& at the time he had already fought multiple times at 154 but was allowed to cw canelo despite himself saying countless times that if a fighter weight drains someone like pacquiao with cw then it supposedly dont count,& that its not a real win. Yet he was allowed to force a cw which he admitted was only to drain canelo,while wbc forced canelo to fight at mw limit vs gigi because gigi went crying to daddy.

      When canelos fought at cw it has never been to intentionally drain his opponents,he fought jr at cw because he was already jumping 10 lbs,of course hes not going to jump 13 just to give jr a better chance,he didn't even know how he would adapt at 165 & had never fought above 155. Mayweather is the same height as canelo & had already won titles at FULL jmw,yet by his own admission weight drained canelo because he could,& knew it would kill him. These flomos are hypocrits.

      And mayweather was a great great fighter but by just his own words alone its easy to see he invented personally cherrypicking every opponent,but gigis entire career is a cherrypick.
      Last edited by kushking; 05-30-2017, 11:01 PM.

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        Originally posted by original zero View Post
        The WBC rankings are publicly available from that time. Canelo was #1. Canelo was not enforced as a mandatory because Canelo didn't want to be enforced as a mandatory. Period.

        Please show us one public comment from Canelo or his team asking for the Mayweather rematch to be ordered. You can't. The WBC had no mandatory to enforce because the #1 ranked fighter wanted to wait.

        Nobody would have gained anything by calling Canelo out publicly for wanting to take his time. But you can't act like Mayweather was avoiding facing the top fighter when the top fighter didn't want to face him.


        The bottom line is this,theres nothing wrong with the wbc protecting the no1 cash cow, the problem lies when they hypocritically act like their fair & balanced,or that they apply the rules fairly. It was unfair to gift gigi a paper vacant wbc jr belt that was only created to collect sactioning fees from contenders by calling them paper champions. And it is especially unfair to force a 15 day deadline where if the true lineal champ doesn't agree to challengers rediculous demands,they are forced into a 55-45 split purse bid.

        Bottom line is that canelo beat the lineal mw champ who gigi refused to fight at 155,& took step aside $$ from like a hypocrit. And gigi had only been given a vacant undefended ibf belt vs lemule,& a vacant wbc jr belt but was allowed to dictate literally everything to the lineal champ cashcow who barely fought once at 155 but already became lineal,while gigi was at mw 8 yrs & never took a single risk,& never sacrificed a single concession of even a single lb to become lineal. He claimed he only wants the belts yet each & every time he chooses money instead.

        The wbc thought that gigi would become a ppv star so they threw canelo under the bus,plain & simple,even mayweather said the same thing. The wbc figured gigi would win because of all the disadvantages canelo had to deal with,& they figured hed keep paying them fees for yrs to come because hes the only relevant 1 at mw. They wanted canelo to concede everything to gigi despite that being unprecedented in level of ******ity for a paper champ with zero legit earned belts to be given such advantages in negotiations based on wbc bs.
        Last edited by kushking; 05-30-2017, 10:56 PM.

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          The bottom line is this,canelo has Cherrypicked like anyone else, he's certainly used his leverage as the a side to gain advantages before. But for some gigi fans to claim that he somehow aged gigi by waiting a yr to fight him after becoming mw champ,is rediculous. If canelo was scared of gigi at anytime why would he be fighting him now,& why offer him so much from day 1? Its disingenuous to claim that gigi would have given canelo 45% if roles reversed. If gigi & canelo switched places,gigi & fans would say canelos a hypejob with no resume who is lucky to make 10-15 million. I know for a fact that many on here would be saying canelo is pricing himself out.

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            Originally posted by kushking View Post
            Dumb! I guess thats why hes been the most consistent vada tested fighter then huh including his last fight. Meanwhile gigi has gone most his career barely being tested. And everytime I hear fools mention vada as part of the canelo hate agenda,its cringeworthy as is the fact you haven't a clue what the wbc clean fighter program is,all it is is a program that encourages fighters to use vada,& ENCOURAGES them to take classes about why drugs are bad.
            for Canelo to be the most consistent, he sure didn't use it fight before last, when he had to make 54 against Liam smith

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              Sulaiman wants so bad to be part of the event, he already announced another huichol belt for september.... oh , and the previous huichol belt ended on a Mexican museum...

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                Originally posted by NC Uppercut View Post
                for Canelo to be the most consistent, he sure didn't use it fight before last, when he had to make 54 against Liam smith
                The champion him self wasnt doing vada, but canelo was supposed to do it?

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                  Originally posted by icha View Post
                  The champion him self wasnt doing vada, but canelo was supposed to do it?
                  I was responding to above quote.

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                    Originally posted by bigdunny1 View Post
                    that's semantics whether they said here I will pay you money don't strip us or WBC decided to break rules to get money without having the conversation it's still corruption. And you only have to look at the long list of Haymon WBC champs and the shady circumstances a lot of them got the title to the opponents the WBC has mandated to see the alliance and corruption between the 2. But again WBC literally broke every single rule they have in place just for Floyd to keep that belt until he retired.
                    It's not semantics. That's like if you offered the police money to let you free (a bribe) or if the police let you free knowing they'd get a bonus for it. The end result is Floyd keeps his belt, in one he is absolved of blame, the other he can be charged.

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