Errol Spence - Is he the truth?

[NaijaD]

Loool OP does have valid points but Spence himself has said he didn't have to worry about defense in both of those fights. I mean reading LacedUp's notes you wouldn't believe Spence won every round against Algieri and Bundu and held both guys to a connect rate of about 30%.

We'll find out in a week but admittedly I need to see more from Spence to convince me he is the truth, best part is he'll have to do just that to beat Brook.

[ShoulderRoll]

We are going to find out in a week.

In the meantime, enjoy the first phase of the American invasion when Gervonta Davis sets foot in the Copper Box Arena later today.

[Larry the boss]

we will find out soon man

[sicko]

However I can play this game with you have you questioning both fighters going into this fight because BOTH have Flaws.

Lets talk about Brooks flaws, his Defense is not great, he traps himself against the ropes a lot, he has no inside game, his inside game is to hug until the ref comes. He is NOT a Backfoot Fighter and also he doesn't take punches to the body well at all in fact that is when he traps himself against the Ropes is when he gets caught with a good body shot

Oh and here is another one and it is a BIG ONE, STAMINA! Kell Brook FADES and slows down big time later in the fight.

So if we gonna talk about Spence Jr Flaws lets point out Brooks as well because he has many that Can be exploited

Oh and By The Way! Reach Advantage could play a Factor Spence Jr 72' Reach while Kell Brook only 69' when it comes to Jabs yes that could play a Major factor. Here comes to "Oh Well GGG Is Bigger And Reach Wasn't A Problem Vs GGG for 4 Rounds" well GGG only has a 70' Reach which is only a 1 Inch Longer than Brook's Reach. Some to think about and things that are not being talked about on this Forum nor do I expect it to be. You have GGG fans who don't want Spence Jr to beat Brook better than GGG did because it takes away from their guy win over Brook. You have Prideful Brook Fans, no issues with them Respect to them for being Loyal! However, Brook is no Mayweather, Pacquiao or any of that so lets not make him out to be a guy who wasn't hurt by Senchenko and Carson Jones as well

You have to see BOTH FIGHTERS FLAWS because it will likely play a factor. The HOPE is that Brook is not believing the Media and Fans and coming in thinking "This Kid Has No Experience He Haven't Fought Anybody Blah Blah Blah" if that is truly his mentality then I PRAY FOR HIM! Spence Jr you really don't know what to expect and that makes him DANGEROUS for Brook because he have no clue, he don't know how hard that dude hit nor have we even Seen Spence Jr's very Best because he haven't had to show his Best vs Inferior Opponents and for what was Suppose to be Step Up Fights he blew them Away. Vs Weaker opponents yes you are a little more Reckless and take chances which results into you taking some shots absolutely. However vs Brook in the biggest match of his life I expect Spence Jr to clean all that up and come with his BEST!

It shouldn't be any excuses made on Either Side after this fight! May The Best Man Win and hopefully the Winner Fights Thurman next or after he gets his Warmup from his Injury! Loser probably end up at 154 I'm thinking because both are BIG Welterweights depending on how the fight goes they could meet again at 154 regardless!

[alexguiness]

The only 'truth' about Spence is that his best win is Algieri, and his second best win is...Bundu.

[joseph5620]

Did you read the same thing by LacedUp I read????

I didn't see him say Spence "struggled". He said if Spence does x or y vs C & D level fighters its cool, but if he does x or y vs a A level fighter, like Brook, it might not be so cool. That was the legit thing he brought up when I read his post anyway

Personally I got a pet peeve at calling top 10 & top 20ish boxers like Aligeri & Bundu C & D level, but I understand the overall point he's trying to make & I'd agree with him. If Spence makes the same mistakes he's made vs lesser fighters vs Brook he's likely to be put into much harsher spots then Aligeri or Bundu could put him in.

He said Spence couldn't counter punch. Got tagged a lot . Didn't bring his hands back after punching and a lot more things that simply were not true. Both fights wouldn't have been one sided if Spence was fighting in the way he described lol


Making an analysis is one thing. But fabricating specific things is ridiculous.

[FLY TY]

We may have been watching a lie for a long time now. Like I've said in another thread, Spence is not ready for these types of fights. But it could be a learning experience to hone his skills. Only thing regrettable is this fight should have happened right after the Algieri and Bizier fights. Spence was calling out Brook before and after the Algieri fight, and Brook/Hearn called his bluff. And all of a sudden Errol camp was saying no, they have to take their mandatory fight with no questions asked.

Blatant lie...spence himself said that was garbage, and i think hearn backtracked off that statement as well.

No way, on God's green earth, does it make any sense whatsoever, for Spence to turn down that fight to take a fight to become said fighters mandatory.

Loool OP does have valid points but Spence himself has said he didn't have to worry about defense in both of those fights. I mean reading LacedUp's notes you wouldn't believe Spence won every round against Algieri and Bundu and held both guys to a connect rate of about 30%.

We'll find out in a week but admittedly I need to see more from Spence to convince me he is the truth, best part is he'll have to do just that to beat Brook.

Truth...

Spence beat both guys with ease, and won every damn round, en route to stopping both. He has also stated, he'll be showing new wrinkles this fight, that he didn't have to show in any of his past fights. So yeah, I'm with the majority on this one....fights happening in 7 days, so let's see what happens.

What kills me, is that fans expect a fighter to waltz through fights and never get hit lol. Even the great floyd mayweather got touched in every damn fight. Spence has been blatantly affected by 1 shot, in 21 damn fights, and the fact of the matter is kell brook gets hit, and has been affected by more shots than Spence has. Once again though, the fights this week, OP!

[rickJen]

To be fair, I don't see Spence treating Brook the same way he treated the Bundu and Algieri fights. Bradley didn't fight Provodnikov the same way he fought Marquez or Pacquiao, for example. Different fighters need different strategies. We've seen so many fights where a fighter is completely at ease beating a sub par opponent, but gets beat or struggle against tougher opponents.

[Eff Pandas]

He said Spence couldn't counter punch. Got tagged a lot . Didn't bring his hands back after punching and a lot more things that simply were not true. Both fights wouldn't have been one sided if Spence was fighting in the way he described lol


Making an analysis is one thing. But fabricating specific things is ridiculous.

You think a guy can't win a fight unless he counter punches or doesn't gets tagged? Its a fight & everyone is getting hit. And I don't think the implication was he struggled so much as LacedUp saw issues, that I believe are issues myself & is thinking outloud about how those issues are exploited by Brook.

I think you are walking away with more of an overall problem with what he said vs seeing that yes Spence is not some perfect fighter & yes those things he does less than perfect can be exploited by a top tier guy. Its a legit question & concern. I didn't take it as sh^tting on Spence or downplaying what he's done thus far in anyway.

I mean ffs if you can't bring up legit issues like LacedUp brought up wtf can we talk about here in a reasonable way?

25% of the people posting in here are straight f#cking ******ed bro. And probably 50% are trolling or just making jokes when they cruise NSB. Dude is bringing up legit concerns with Spence in general & in the Brook fight & you seem to only focus on your interpretation of something that wasn't even his main focus or outright said unless you think Spence is the best counter puncher ever or doesn't get hit which are more silly claims one could make than anything LacedUp said.

[rickJen]

Blatant lie...spence himself said that was garbage, and i think hearn backtracked off that statement as well.

No way, on God's green earth, does it make any sense whatsoever, for Spence to turn down that fight to take a fight to become said fighters mandatory.

It's not a lie. It's all over the internets if you just google it. Spence called out Brook multiple times before and after the Algieri fight. Dibella even chimed in and said something like Brook will want no piece of Spence right after the Algieri fight. As soon as Hearn/Brook called their bluffs, they went silent all of a sudden. The Bundu mandatory was much more important all of a sudden.

It's regrettable because the G3 fight Brook took would not have happened.