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Originally posted by revelated View PostNot even in the same class. Duran was actually effective against Hagler and then made a mistake and got caught. That's not the same as Garcia walking forward against a boxer, wide open for overhands as he was.
Now you're making excuses. I'm not going to talk Floyd/Manny because frankly, Manny was already WW for long enough that he shouldn't have been embarrassed the way he was - nevermind Floyd also came up from feather. Weight was not acceptable as an excuse. The boy got schooled, just like Garcia did last night.
Yes, Garcia was new to welterweight, but he was not new to Keith Thurman's style. But are you seriously saying you couldn't see that Garcia fought the SAME DAMN WAY he fought against Khan, same way he fought against Peterson, same way he fought against Herrera, same way he fought against Matthysse?
The dude is one-dimensional and doesn't change. Thurman exploited that perfectly. That's called getting exposed - when you make the same mistakes you've always made and this fighter comes along and exploits it.
Say what?
Denying the fact that Pacquiao is a smaller fighter is either bias or ignorance.
May started at Feather, well Pac started as a flyweight.
I just think Pacquiao and Garcia were smaller fighters and the other guy had a natural size advantage.
You don't agree, fair enough.
Regarding Danny, he didn't fight a bad fight, he just too much of a flat footed fighter.
His power is not an equalizer at 147 like it was at 140.
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Originally posted by hitking View PostFlew up from TN to take this one in, and don't feel cheated at all. Very solid fight. Got the result I expected and wanted. Don't know which fight the rest of the arena was watching. I thought Keith won pretty comfortably.
As for how the result changes the welterweight landscape, it really doesn't. IMO Brook and Thurman are the top guys in the division. I would rate Manny above both of them, but at this point, its hard to gage Manny's interest in the sport. To me he's kinda moonlighting and milking his fanbase for every penny he can until he genuinely retires from the sport. I think Brook and Thurman are kinda 1a and 1b, or 2a or 2b depending on how you view Manny. Thurman's resume is a lil better than Brook's. But, Brook was more impressive against Porter. Honestly, at this point, it doesn't really matter how you rate them. Thurman against the Brook-Spence winner is the obvious next step.
As for Danny, I never considered him a top welterweight to begin with. And last night did nothing but cement it. He doesn't have a single significant or relevant win at 47. And he was fighting last night for a shot at welterweight relevance, and fell short. He's a good, but not great fighter. I think Broner would be a good next opponent for him. He has a couple potential rematches with Khan or Peterson that would be interesting. But, I think Broner probably generates the most interest. If he's serious about trying to establish himself as a player in the division, Porter would be the perfect opponent after Shawn is done beating up Berto. But I doubt Angel would sign off on that. That would be an entertaining prefight buildup with the dads though.
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Originally posted by hitking View PostI would rate Porter and Bradley ahead of him.
I won't argue with you, because it's splitting hairs. All three have pedestrian resumes at ww, at I don't rate bradley top 5, because no one knows who he's fighting next, or even if he will. Hopefully these guys all continue to fight each other because that's the only way to clear everything up. But that was kinda my point when i said there was just nobody else i can say definitively goes ahead of danny, besides thurman, brook, and manny.
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Originally posted by Weebler I View PostNah, he was already on it because his trainer was telling him he had it in the bag.
Well done One Time, gulf in class.
As for Garcia, we've seen him lose before so it's not a surprise, about time that fraudulent undefeated record was put right.
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Originally posted by Vadrigar. View PostDanny has been unofficially exposed on two other occassions: herera and Peterson . The judges just got it right this time.
Garcia's deal with the devil is over.
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Originally posted by FLY TY View PostTim Bradley's biggest win at ww was against an old, blown up maquez, nearly 4 years ago...porters biggest win came against broner last year, but he has lost to both thurman and brook.
I won't argue with you, because it's splitting hairs. All three have pedestrian resumes at ww, at I don't rate bradley top 5, because no one knows who he's fighting next, or even if he will. Hopefully these guys all continue to fight each other because that's the only way to clear everything up. But that was kinda my point when i said there was just nobody else i can say definitively goes ahead of danny, besides thurman, brook, and manny.
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