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    #41
    If Hatton had fought his entire career the way he's fought his last 3 fights, then yes he would be overated. Something's changed in his preparation/tactics because the Ricky Hatton we're seeing now is not the Ricky Hatton that built up his huge following. He looks laboured and isn't employing the head, side to side and in and out movement that made him so effective.

    I re-watched the fight and it does actually look like the judges got it pretty much right, Hatton clearly lands more shots in more of the rounds. I'll admit that I thought that he'd blown it when watching it live though. Moral victory for Luis but clear victory on the cards for Ricky.

    I want to see both of these guys in with other top Welters before I totally dismiss Hatton's chances at the weight because it looks like Collazo could be the real deal, but it did look like the extra weight had a negative impact on Hatton's speed and stamina.

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      #42
      Yes, he was exposed and a blueprint to defeat him has been written in video


      I think that's pretty ridiculous Donnie.



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        #43
        I voted yes,

        But I thought we were talking about donald hoskins

        ****.

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          #44
          Can we have some logic in the conversation...

          Firstly, if is overrated now, but wasnt before the fight then this means that everyone's view has changed.

          Who here thinks that Hatton cant beat the people we said he could beat before the Collazo fight... Because I know for sure that he will still beat Corrales, he will kill Gatti, he will annihilate Cotto, he will beat Castillo but thats a tough one, and Mayweather is 50/50 like we all said before.

          Just because he half-won a fight with a guy who was a stylistic nightmare for him, does not mean all of a sudden he will lose to the rest of those guys... **** man, the inconsistency of opinion round here is just amazing. I swear half this board has just jumped on a whole new bandwagon now... and then when Hatton wins convincingly it will be "oh, Hatton is the best".

          If your gonna start judging boxers, stick by your damn principles. If you thought boxer A had skills before a fight, dont change your opinion on one fight... And lets face it, 90% of this board recognised he had skills. So why the sudden change? He boxes for half hour and you guys are like "Robbery" "Overrated!".

          Hatton beats most of them out there, with trouble against Caastillo and Mayweather due to different things. We all knew this before. Now get off the bandwagon.

          Overrated? I think not.

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            #45
            no ricky hatton is not over-rated. just like calzaghe is not over-rated. there is other competition in the world that are products of other than the american stage. get a clue people, the fight-game is worldwide.

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              #46
              Originally posted by Atnan
              thats why they were talking hatton down and saying how " american " fans wont enjoy the way he fights.....your case in saying how hbo is riding hattons **** is wrong and your a ****ing idiot! lol jus kiddin

              I don't think any "American" doesn't like the aggressive behavior of Hatton, but I think fans tend to like a "fair fight", meaning, if there are rules, follow them; the holding got annoyed many fans during that Tszyu fight; they thought that the ref was playing favorites in Hatton's favor.

              I still would rather see Hatton fight than some fighter that just sits there shooting the jab in one place, like Winky Wright; I am all for somebody trying to win by KO.

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                #47
                Originally posted by EXIGE
                Can we have some logic in the conversation...

                Firstly, if is overrated now, but wasnt before the fight then this means that everyone's view has changed.

                Who here thinks that Hatton cant beat the people we said he could beat before the Collazo fight... Because I know for sure that he will still beat Corrales, he will kill Gatti, he will annihilate Cotto, he will beat Castillo but thats a tough one, and Mayweather is 50/50 like we all said before.

                Just because he half-won a fight with a guy who was a stylistic nightmare for him, does not mean all of a sudden he will lose to the rest of those guys... **** man, the inconsistency of opinion round here is just amazing. I swear half this board has just jumped on a whole new bandwagon now... and then when Hatton wins convincingly it will be "oh, Hatton is the best".

                If your gonna start judging boxers, stick by your damn principles. If you thought boxer A had skills before a fight, dont change your opinion on one fight... And lets face it, 90% of this board recognised he had skills. So why the sudden change? He boxes for half hour and you guys are like "Robbery" "Overrated!".

                Hatton beats most of them out there, with trouble against Caastillo and Mayweather due to different things. We all knew this before. Now get off the bandwagon.

                Overrated? I think not.
                I thought cotto would stop hatton on cuts before the fight.I think now,that a KO is really within reach.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by kfootball15
                  NO no, i completely agree... lol. But i do think color of skin makes an impact. People immidiatly think of Hispanics and Blacks dominating nearly everys sport. People think a fighter cant be excitng unless hes black or mexican. Well hattons super exciting and hes white

                  That is only because there are many people that don't remember the "Old Days" of boxing when fights were exciting, action packed fights...you had Italians, Irish, Poles, ***s (if you count that as a ethnic group), and many others that made up boxing back in the first half of the 20th century.

                  You talk about Pernell Whitaker, I can talk about Willie Pep

                  You talk about Tyson, I can talk about Jack Dempsey

                  I have no answer for Ali


                  I also don't see anybody saying Gatti isn't exciting



                  I understand your point though, there is a bit of bias, but that is somewhat understandable too:

                  I don't see any white Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, Dr. J, Vince Carter, etc. in Pro-basketball.

                  I don't see any white version of Dion Sanders, Terrell Owens, Chad Johnson, Barry Sanders, etc. in Pro-Football
                  Last edited by Abe Attell; 05-15-2006, 03:53 AM.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by LostGuy
                    41-0 yet tszyu is the only recognizeable name hes fought
                    lmao they list maussa as a noteable win for hatton whats that ****ing tell ya

                    suddenly collazo is a good opponent cause hatton struggled/lost to him

                    just like eamon mcgee became a good opponent cause hatton got dropped in the first by him lmao

                    zab judah fans dont try calling pineda or baldomir good opponents
                    tyson fans dont try calling buster douglas or mcbride good opponents
                    nobody says Alberto de las Mercedes Cortes was a good tito opponent

                    get it?

                    No becuz Collazo had a title you dumb-ass everyone you named was a journeyman, 26-1 before a fight sounds like a legit fighter and future champ!

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by EXIGE
                      Can we have some logic in the conversation...

                      Firstly, if is overrated now, but wasnt before the fight then this means that everyone's view has changed.

                      Who here thinks that Hatton cant beat the people we said he could beat before the Collazo fight... Because I know for sure that he will still beat Corrales, he will kill Gatti, he will annihilate Cotto, he will beat Castillo but thats a tough one, and Mayweather is 50/50 like we all said before.

                      Just because he half-won a fight with a guy who was a stylistic nightmare for him, does not mean all of a sudden he will lose to the rest of those guys... **** man, the inconsistency of opinion round here is just amazing. I swear half this board has just jumped on a whole new bandwagon now... and then when Hatton wins convincingly it will be "oh, Hatton is the best".

                      If your gonna start judging boxers, stick by your damn principles. If you thought boxer A had skills before a fight, dont change your opinion on one fight... And lets face it, 90% of this board recognised he had skills. So why the sudden change? He boxes for half hour and you guys are like "Robbery" "Overrated!".

                      Hatton beats most of them out there, with trouble against Caastillo and Mayweather due to different things. We all knew this before. Now get off the bandwagon.

                      Overrated? I think not.
                      Good post mate, fully agree..

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