Comments Thread For: Arum Rips: Golden Boy's Flat Fee Offer To Golovkin is Bull****!

[cork]

Why do some of these keyboard warriors care so much about what GGG & Canelo earn. It's like some of these keyboard warriors think there getting some financial benefit from there opinions. They are getting **** all! True fans should be more interested in getting the fight on. That's all that matters. A fight that we we all think will be amazing while it lasts.

It's easy why people discuss finances. People are looking for a party to blame if the fight doesn't get made because of financial reasons. When fighters make outrageous financial demands it's easy to see why the fight isn't get made.

[Deevel916]

While Canelo is a bigger draw, he's not that much bigger of a draw to offer an undefeated Champ like GGG a flat fee. He's definitely not the superstar that he and Oscar thinks he is. Neither fighter can do big numbers on their names alone but together this fight will generate about a million ppv buys and sell out whatever venue its taking place at. 60/40 or even 65/35 would be fair in my opinion.

With that said, if GGG accepts the $10mil offer, then great! I'm not earning anything from either fighter's purse. I just want to see a good fight. On the other hand, its situations like this that prevent these high profile fights from happening and that's why there needs to be a fair offer made.

[Shadoww702]

Perhaps because they know ODLH wants to hold it back by using the finance as an easy excuse, Oscar knows the only other options of a bigger fight available is Pacquiao who can't make 154lbs then Floyd Mayweather who is retired and at third there is GGG who people clearly want to see him fight.

Offer a percentage get it over and done with this fight will gather a whole lot of attention it will easily be the biggest fight to be made in boxing right now.

It'd be different with Canelo and Oscar low balling IF GGG was the challenger to the belts but Canelo wants to be challenger to the belt he use to have and the other belts GGG has, it's been that bad he has been damaging his body to avoid 160 his natural limit lol.

How many P4P top #10 guys has GGG fought??? How many future Hall of Famers?? ZERO!

How many P4P top #50??? One Brook! Who is PROBABLY a Top #20. Lemuix Isn't! Neither is The Buffalo Bills of Boxing Martin Murray.

So the BEST guys that GGG has beaten are...

A Welterweight brought up TWOvweightclasses.

A Canadian who was KTFO by 8 loss Marco Rubio and lost to 154 lb Joachim Alcine who was BLASTED out in 1 ROUND by Alfredo Angulo.

Martin Murray who is 0-4-1 in Major title fights! Poor guy NEVER even won a Major Title.

I DONT care what either one makes. I too want to see the fight but I realize it will NEVER happen if GGG expects 40,50,60% split. Pipe Dream just like him EVER moving up to fight at 168lbs.

[jjsmyth87]

Does Pacquiao know that he supposedly made $150 million for the Floyd fight? Somebody forward him this article.

Its hilarious that people on here think they know more about how much money pacquiao is getting paid than pacquiao himself. He has said before that arum is paying him well and not ripping him off. I dont know how the myth got perpetuated that arum is ripping manny off but its just hilarious because nobody in his stable is claiming arum rips them off. Arum is the highest paying promoter in the business and this is especially true since al haymons financial backers arent paying those inflated purses anymore

[bojangles1987]

Of course it is, any flat fee offer at least a year out from the actual fight is a joke offer. It couldn't be more blatant a PR move.

[titan m]

Actually I think Oscar made $55 million and Mayweather made $10 million when they fought.
But look, that opened the doors to Floyd becoming a ppv star. So little g should do the same and take a smaller cut cause he's clearly the b-side in the negotiations

I don't understand people using this argument, it doesn't matter what Oscar, Floyd or Manny did in the past, this is Canelo and he's not on their level of popularity. People assume they can just prop him up as some big worldwide crossover superstar but its just not the case, he's a popular fighter but not even close to what those guys had. Everybody knows who Oscar, Floyd and Manny are worldwide, ask a non boxing fan about Canelo and in most places and they wont even know who you're talking about, especially outside of the US.

[Deevel916]

How many P4P top #10 guys has GGG fought??? How many future Hall of Famers?? ZERO!

How many P4P top #50??? One Brook! Who is PROBABLY a Top #20. Lemuix Isn't! Neither is The Buffalo Bills of Boxing Martin Murray.

So the BEST guys that GGG has beaten are...

A Welterweight brought up TWOvweightclasses.

A Canadian who was KTFO by 8 loss Marco Rubio and lost to 154 lb Joachim Alcine who was BLASTED out in 1 ROUND by Alfredo Angulo.

Martin Murray who is 0-4-1 in Major title fights! Poor guy NEVER even won a Major Title.

I DONT care what either one makes. I too want to see the fight but I realize it will NEVER happen if GGG expects 40,50,60% split. Pipe Dream just like him EVER moving up to fight at 168lbs.

Explain how GGG is suppose to fight these top guys when for the most part, almost every single top guy/belt holder in his division has blatantly ducked him or pulled out of a fight?

I get it. He's a high risk/low reward fighter at the moment, but lets not act as if he didnt try to get these guys into the ring only to be turned down/ducked.

[ShoulderRoll]

I dont know how the myth got perpetuated that arum is ripping manny off but its just hilarious because nobody in his stable is claiming arum rips them off.

Its no myth that Manny hired the Vision Qwest accounting firm to investigate his finances. But Bob Arum made him fire them when they started digging too deeply and asking too many questions.

[Deevel916]

I don't understand people using this argument, it doesn't matter what Oscar, Floyd or Manny did in the past, this is Canelo and he's not on their level of popularity. People assume they can just prop him up as some big worldwide crossover superstar but its just not the case, he's a popular fighter but not even close to what those guys had. Everybody knows who Oscar, Floyd and Manny are worldwide, ask a non boxing fan about Canelo and in most places and they wont even know who you're talking about, especially outside of the US.

Exactly! Pacquiao during his prime was able to generate 700k ppv buys on his name alone. Canelo barely broke 200k vs Smith.

Mind you, Canelo is a Mexican and fought in Texas on a Mexican Holiday! Pacquiao a Philipino fought Clottey who was from Ghana in Texas and more than doubled Canelo's ppv buy rate!

Canelo has a loooong way to go before he's on the star level of a Mayweather or Pacquiao

[just the facts]

Everything Bob says here is the truth. This is the biggest fight in boxing today. There needs to be a fair percentage (I've always said somewhere near 70-30), and this fight needs to be made sooner than later. Also, I think Arums assessment of Canelo is spot on. If he were lighter on his feet, I think Canelo would have a much better chance, but Alvares moves in the ring like a 45 year old man with those cement block feet of his.

Arum is famous for lying. Words that actually can out of Arum's mouth "Yesterday I was lying, today I'm telling the truth".