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Ring ****zine Greatest Fighter Alive Countdown
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Originally posted by -PBP- View PostJones would play a pickup basketball game, clown Lamotta with one hand behind his back, do a rap concert after the fight, then go back to the dressing room, put on a tuxedo and sit down next to Max and Lampley to call the Ward/Kovalev PPV.
boxing fans have the shortest memory of any fans...its all about what you did today
all people know of Jones is a washed up former champion fighting on too long
I bet a high percentage of posters on this site didnt even watch the man live, in his prime, which was 20 years ago, let alone a full fight of his in his prime
He was special and prime for prime...he was just flat out better than most of the guys on Ring's list
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Originally posted by -PBP- View Post10. Larry Holmes
9. Manny Pacquiao
8. Jake Lamotta
7. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
6. Julio Caesar Chavez Sr.
5. Marvin Hagler
4. Evander Holyfield
3. Pernell Whitaker
2. Roberto Duran
1. To Be Determined
tv.crav eonline.com/news/431685-who-is-the-greatest-fighter-alive-no-4-revealed
Interesting series on Ring ****zine. Looks like #1 will be Sugar Ray Leonard.
What do you think?
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Originally posted by Bald Shavers View PostThis is the right list (from 1 to 10):
Leonard - best among the 4 plus Benitez
Duran - greatest lightweight ever
Pacquiao - 8 titles (4 lineals)
Jones - beat prime Hopkins and Toney and broke Archie Moore's age record
Holmes - second only to Ali at all-time heavyweight
Hagler - beat Hearns who was one of the GOATS
Mayweather - undefeated but played too much defense outside the ring in later years
Hearns - arguably beat Leonard in rematch, destroyed fat Duran, a better chin woulda made him one of the all time best p4p
Whitaker - no way he's better than Floyd at counter punching and defense
Chavez SENIOR - great record
1. Duran
2. Leonard
3. Whitaker
4. Mayweather(Mayweather and Pea are interchangeable)
5. Pacquiao
6. Jones
7. Hagler
8. Holyfield
9. Holmes
10. HopkinsLast edited by -PBP-; 08-08-2016, 03:51 PM.
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Originally posted by Pigeons View PostDuran was 1-4 against the rest of the Four Horsemen.
Hagler was a lifelong middleweight and hearns, Leonard were huge welterweights.
Duran was able to beat leonard and was competitive with hagler.
Like giving Billy conn credit for hanging with prime joe Louis.
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It's an OK list but of course I don't entirely agree with it. I don't think Leonard is the best fighter alive. He didn't fight very often and he didn't last very long. Leonard was finished as a top fighter when Norris beat the hell out of him. Hearns deserve to win their second fight and I always thought Hagler beat him and would have beat him worse if Leonard had done the right thing and rematched Hagler right away. Hagler was murder in rematches. Hearns was still winning world titles when Leonard was finished as a top fighter.The 34 year old light punching Camacho KOed the 40 year old Leonard in 4 rounds. I think Hopkins should be ranked above Leonard. Bernard had 20 successful middleweight title defenses in a row for the all time record and he was still winning world titles into his late 40s. I think Whitaker is also ranked too high but it's their list.
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Originally posted by therealpugilist View PostIf any fighter could do all this in one day, its a prime roy jones
boxing fans have the shortest memory of any fans...its all about what you did today
all people know of Jones is a washed up former champion fighting on too long
I bet a high percentage of posters on this site didnt even watch the man live, in his prime, which was 20 years ago, let alone a full fight of his in his prime
He was special and prime for prime...he was just flat out better than most of the guys on Ring's list
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greatest fighter ever is subjective and certainly ring ****zine doesn't hold much credibility when dealing with realistic matters....Most old timers like ring ****zine b/c they deal with old fashioned outdated comparisons of what should be made....
Greatest fighter HAS to have consistency however so theres that...again SUBJECTIVE and greatest is not the best ever.
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