Ring ****zine Greatest Fighter Alive Countdown

[therealpugilist]

Terrible so far. The Ring died to me around 2005

agreed...the article's went to *****

the writers went from having integrity to pushing their agenda's and trashing guys who didnt fit their preference

the p4p list became a joke, just as the lists they do now like this

its posters on this site that would make for a better panel and people to make all time lists, etc.

[CaneloMaidana]

he is only their because of a win over Robinson, who he outweighed over 10 pounds.....he doesnt belong.....that was a nostalgic pick

LaMotta was 16 pounds heavier in some of the fights. That and Raging Bull do get him over rated.

[Madison Boxing]

I'd probably put him in top 15.

doesnt have half the skill that the guys in that top 10 have. Was fortunate he could fight guys smaller than him, lean on them and the refs let him get away with it. He fought one decent fighter who he couldnt lean on and he got beaten easy. His fight against povetkin certainly wasnt what i class as 'boxing'

[therealpugilist]

LaMotta was 16 pounds heavier in some of the fights. That and Raging Bull do get him over rated.

Lamotta would get embarrased by Roy Jones.....put LaMotta from 1940s in with Jones from 1990s any weight between 160-175 and its a white wash


Lamotta couldnt carry Roy Jones' jock strap

Hopkins would beat that azz too

[Joe Beamish]

I'd put Jones in top 10. Not Lamotta or Chavez.

Leonard at #1 is fine with me.

[soul_survivor]

He beat Toney sometime in 1994 and didnt lose to Tarver until sometime in 2004. Its been more than 20 years but Im pretty sure Toney was considered P4P #1 when they fought so Roy takes that from him there and again its been some years but I would be willing to bet he was still P4P #1 by almost every orginization or ****zine that bothers to do such a thing until Tarver Starched him sometime in 2004. As far as his competition he fought what he fought and Im not going to sit here and run down his record fight by fight. There were no Hagler or Hearns or SRLs for him to fight, what he did do is make world class fighters look like rank amateurs. Roy didnt appeal to everyone I get it. I had some buddys that hated him to my astonishment but I like big butts and they liked big **** better. To each their own.

From 1994-2004, the Ring ****zine also had Mosley at p4p no. 1 and Tito and maybe Oscar but I can't remember. He never had 20 straight years as no. 1. Even if he did, I don't put too much emphasis on p4p.

Anyway, he didn't fight a number of top guys, including Eubank, Benn and Collins and then he missed out on THE guy in his division and instead fought Hill who had just lost to that fighter. That's quite bizarre.

Btw, I never let personal likes or dislikes get in the way of how I rank a fighter and fact is, of all the great fighters alive today, I'm not sure Jones would be a top 10, however a lot of the greatest fighters have passed away by now, so maybe he could sneak in at 10, definitely if Lamotta could get in on the list but noway is he one or a definite.

The definites are: Leonard, Duran, Hearns, Hagler, Holmes, Pac, May, Holyfield and Sr. That leaves a place for one more guy.

[Bald Shavers]

This is the right list (from 1 to 10):

Leonard - best among the 4 plus Benitez

Duran - greatest lightweight ever

Pacquiao - 8 titles (4 lineals)

Jones - beat prime Hopkins and Toney and broke Archie Moore's age record

Holmes - second only to Ali at all-time heavyweight

Hagler - beat Hearns who was one of the GOATS

Mayweather - undefeated but played too much defense outside the ring in later years

Hearns - arguably beat Leonard in rematch, destroyed fat Duran, a better chin woulda made him one of the all time best p4p

Whitaker - no way he's better than Floyd at counter punching and defense

Chavez SENIOR - great record

[-PBP-]

Lamotta would get embarrased by Roy Jones.....put LaMotta from 1940s in with Jones from 1990s any weight between 160-175 and its a white wash


Lamotta couldnt carry Roy Jones' jock strap

Hopkins would beat that azz too

Jones would play a pickup basketball game, clown Lamotta with one hand behind his back, do a rap concert after the fight, then go back to the dressing room, put on a tuxedo and sit down next to Max and Lampley to call the Ward/Kovalev PPV.

[therealpugilist]

I'd put Jones in top 10. Not Lamotta or Chavez.

Leonard at #1 is fine with me.

anyone with common sense would......Ring ****zine hit the ****ter soon as collins was gone

[Bald Shavers]

Jones would play a pickup basketball game, clown Lamotta with one hand behind his back, do a rap concert after the fight, then go back to the dressing room, put on a tuxedo and sit down next to Max and Lampley to call the Ward/Kovalev PPV.

I think Jones beats LaMotta too.

But if a fight is 15 rounds, the raging bull could have enough time to possibly catch up. There's no way he gets hurt no matter what Jones throws at him. And given enough time he just might make it. Not likely but still...