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    #41
    Originally posted by PivotandRoll View Post
    Why do you guys call it a P4P list when you mean accomplishment list?
    I mean he's the best fighter. I don't see anyone I think is better right now.

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      #42
      Originally posted by kiaba360 View Post
      People are always busy arguing about order/placement, but look at the list from a political standpoint: 7 of the 10 boxers on TBRB's list fight on HBO, and the list has no PBC fighters. The Ring's list is the same way, but they have Loma instead of Bradley.
      Not sure what your point is. PBC doesn't have any fighters that belong on a P4P list.

      Wilder has fought 1 top10 contender
      Thurman has less P4P claim than Brook.
      Lara has looked vulnerable too much and lacks notable wins
      Mikey Garcia has been inactive
      Danny Garcia has a decent claim but has got some gift decisions. He still appears on some P4P lists.

      Out of all the PBC guys, I think the winner of Frampton/LSC deserves a spot on a P4P list... nobody else does.

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        #43
        Originally posted by LacedUp View Post
        Burns, Beltran, Gamboa, Dulorme, Jean and now Postol.

        That's a great deal better than anything GGG has done.
        Recovering from broken jaw Burns who should have lost to Beltran
        Beltran BUMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
        Gamboa 126lber lol
        Dulorme, who!?!?!?

        Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahgahahahahahaha

        Next joke you troll.

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          #44
          Originally posted by cork View Post
          Not gonna argue who deserves to be higher but how is ggg reliant on power? Just because he have power doesn't mean he's reliant on it. Ggg barely lose rounds in fact you can probably count on two hands how many rounds ggg lost in his pro career and most of the rounds he loses because he wants to make it a fight for the fan instead of just doing what he normally does. You don't win in the amateur because of power.
          I never said he can't box but he's not winning rounds because he's necessarily outboxing guys. His power puts guys in survival mode early on, guys in survival mode don't win rounds FACTS. Some people think Kovalev will win a wide UD over Ward, they don't think it's because Kovalev will beat Ward to the punch or outbox him, they think he will hurt him early and put him in survival cautious mode where he won't win rounds. It's actually easier to control the rounds against a guy you can hurt at anytime. See Kovalev vs Hopkins for proof, tell me that Kovalev wouldn't have been another Shumenov or Murat if he didn't hurt BHop early and put him in survival mode.

          It was probably harsh to say he would be handicapped without his power cause that implies he's a caveman of sorts, which I know he's not otherwise he wouldn't be such a decorated amateur but people still get hurt and knocked out in the amateurs.

          We can agree to disagree, cause the stats of how few rounds GGG loses don't lie but his boxing ability isn't the only factor and in my opinion it is not the main factor.

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            #45
            Originally posted by ИATAS View Post
            Ctrl+c, Ctrl+v "racist coward"
            If the shoe fits

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              #46
              Originally posted by LacedUp View Post
              I mean he's the best fighter. I don't see anyone I think is better right now.
              So you just gonna nose dive into the hype? Fair enough....

              Not even near the single best win in the sport at the moment....Postol was NEVER even spoken as a top 20 P4P fighter...

              Thurman>Porter is a much better win.

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                #47
                Originally posted by j0zef View Post
                Not sure what your point is. PBC doesn't have any fighters that belong on a P4P list.

                Wilder has fought 1 top10 contender
                Thurman has less P4P claim than Brook.
                Lara has looked vulnerable too much and lacks notable wins
                Mikey Garcia has been inactive
                Danny Garcia has a decent claim but has got some gift decisions. He still appears on some P4P lists.

                Out of all the PBC guys, I think the winner of Frampton/LSC deserves a spot on a P4P list... nobody else does.
                Thurman has Porter plus Guerrero, Karass, Chaves, Bundu Collazo. All better than anyone Kell has.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by b0x
                  Let's see thurman move up a division and thoroughly shut out the top boxer, who has a great height and reach advantage (erislandy lara for example)...

                  Thurman vs Porter was close. Crawford vs Postol was not. Thurman didn't move up a division. Crawford did. Postol + Crawford were top ranked at 140, Porter and Thurman not quite at 147.
                  Yeah because Broner got his credit for jumpomg divisions? What about Canelo? He started as a WW right?

                  I thought we didn't give credit to people draining themselves to win titles?? Or did Crawfrod not beat Prescott at 140 before dropping back down to win his titles???

                  And once again, who thought Postol was better than Broner at 140?

                  Did you just compare Postol to fu(king Lara??? OH you shameless fu(ks...

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                    #49
                    No problem with that ranking, he's better than Rigo and Ward.

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                      #50
                      1) Winner of Kovalev/Ward
                      2) Chocolatito
                      3) Loser of Kovalev/Ward
                      4) Rigo
                      5) Loma

                      You can slide Bud in at 4 or 5 if you like.

                      I do not yet.

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