Comments Thread For: Canelo Vacates WBC Title! Says Golovkin Talks Continue

[BoxingFan85]

Canelo deserves more then 55% because he is bringing way more then 55% of the fans and money to the table. Just based on their last PPV numbers it's impossible to make a logical argument that GGG is worth any close to 45% given from a purse bid. Which is why no superstar fighters like Floyd or manny go to purse bid. Either you accept a small percent of a very large pie or you don't. Purse bid can't help you get more money against fighters like Canelo. The purse bid was never an option and GGG camp being difficult to negotiate with so Canelo trashed the belt now they have all the time in the world to make a deal. That is if GGG really wants the fight. Because with the money he would make going to 155 should be no problem considering he said he would go to 154 to get big money fights with Manny and Floyd.

Again the point is, is GGG worth 45%? according to WBC him being a WBC interim belt holder he has earned his spot and his split, not your or my decision it's the WBCs.. If he wasn't that interim title holder then GGG would have got 30% split isn't it.. But tell you what, it dint even go to the purses so So called A side could have offered a fare split and weight and we would have still had a fight.. Now the fight is pretty much not happening this year and Canelo will still pull the weight card out when they get to negotiations in future.. Agh.. This is doing my head in!

[robertzimmerman]

Chuck, be more honest.

Forget that 3 year gap dude, they stated that they could beat anyone from 154-168 LAST YEAR.

I said that they have been making that comment for THREE YEARS, not that they made it three years ago.

And only last August Team Golovkin stated that Gennady could beat everyone at 154.

According to their recent claims, Golovkin could have fought Ward AND Canelo..... but he chose not to, and he used weight as an excuse.

You're deluding yourself.

[muslimer12]

Both sides have said they are still negotiating, without the enforced timeline.

Would you give Golovkin an enforced 45% split when you know it should be in the 70/30 region?

I understand you like Canelo but sometimes you got to see things the way they are. You can imagine and make up that this whole issue was over money, but everyone knows its that Canelo just wont fight GGG, for sure wont fight him at 160. He gave up his own belt for godsakes. Same person that post Khan interview seemed like he would do anything to fight GGG, but when negotiations start, the ducking begins.

[ShoulderRoll]

The rules of ****ing boxing state that he deserves 45% of the money.

He's a fellow champ and was his mandatory.

What is wrong with you?

If it goes to purse bid that's what the rules say.

But in the real world he hasn't doesn't jack shit to earn that kind of split. He's never produced revenues on the same level as Canelo. It is what it is.

So Canelo will simply drop the belt and be free to negotiate a more appropriate split.

[deanrw]

I cannot believe Golovkin ducked the 155lb weight division. It then forced Canelo to reluctantly vacate the belt, rather than belittle the history , the dignity, and long list of proud 155lb champions that ever graced the ring.

[aboutfkntime]

You're not answering my questions.

Again, Canelo's options aren't as great as what you think.

You don't know he'll get Brook, and I think it's realistic that GG gets to Jacobs and Saunders first.

Again, sooner or later Canelo will have to move up to MW. Because he'll have run out of CW's and his body won't hold out.

Then what?

If when he steps up to MW, GG has all of the belts, what does Canelo do?

He'd be in a position where he couldn't go any lower, he couldn't go any higher, and GG would have all the belts.

Canelo would be stuck.

I think that's bull****.

1) Brook would fight Canelo tomorrow.

2) Jacobs/Saunders are both more likely to fight Canelo than Golovkin. They have both shown no interest whatsoever in Golovkin, and both of those guys would obviously prefer a much better payday and much better exposure against an easier opponent.

I completely disagree, Canelo has much better options than Golovkin does.

[eco1]

No pendejo they said that 3 years ago and you clowns are holding him to it 3 fawking years later!
Why not hold Floyd to his bs of well he called me out referring to jmm and Robert Guerrero forgetting that he was called out by margarito, pwill, winky, ***y Sergio, and GGG just to name a few.
But you bash GGG any chance you get with your bs agenda

green sent!

[robertzimmerman]

FACT: According to Team Golovkin, Gennady could have fought Lara, but he chose not to.





FACT: According to Team Golovkin, Gennady could have fought Canelo/Cotto, but he chose not to.





FACT: According to Team Golovkin, Gennady could have fought Ward, but he chose not to.

Why would he have wanted to fight Lara, when Lara isn't a money fight, he's not in his division, and GG has 2 MW belts, and he was a mandatory for the lineal?

Again, he didn't have to enforce the mandatory against Cotto, because he could fight for the IBF belt, knowing that the Cotto-Canelo winner had to eventually fight him or vacate.

He then allowed the Canelo-Khan fight to go ahead, because he got a mandatory out of the way, thinking that Canelo and Oscar would sit down with them afterwards.

Again, a Ward fight wasn't really viable.


You're now starting to debate like a child. Your so called facts haven't allowed for any circumstances. But that's what happens when you're completely biased.

[pacmanis1]

I think Canelo will dwindle as a cash cow if he doesn't fight GGG. I'd love to see Canelo vs J-Rock, Andrade, or a Charlo, but I don't think those are solid money fights. And considering they're with Haymon it'd probably be a lofty price tag.

I know personally I won't pay to see him fight Rosado. And I can't help but feel those are the fights lined up for Canelo.

I fear the day that we say Canelo did a better job beating Danny Garcia than Floyd did. That's probably the future of boxing too.

[gmc_rfc_06]

I understand you like Canelo but sometimes you got to see things the way they are. You can imagine and make up that this whole issue was over money, but everyone knows its that Canelo just wont fight GGG, for sure wont fight him at 160. He gave up his own belt for godsakes. Same person that post Khan interview seemed like he would do anything to fight GGG, but when negotiations start, the ducking begins.

It's not made up anything, both sides have said they are still negotiating without the belt. This just removed the deadline and enforced terms.

There is absolutely no way that Golovkin is getting 45%, he just isn't. If they are not willing to bend on that, it's their loss.