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The Most Overrated Fighters in Boxing: Ricky Hatton & Antonio Margarito

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    #31
    This article is funny. He says yes, he'd rather see margarito v. mayweahter but mayweather would beat margarito? but margarito would be tough....so if he belives margarito would give mayweather a tough fight then how is margarito over-rated?

    And i'd like to correct the writer who said that kyvelos was knocked out by coseme river, which he was but, only after margarito destroyed him first and gave kyvelos his first lose! Trinidad isn't the only fighter that destroys fighters. Another is margaritos fight with antoniio diaz, yes, it was competitive but then margarito just tko'd diaz in brutal fashion and took over the second part of the fight, mosley back pedaled against antonio diaz before his power caught diaz so to make an exuse that margarito is over-rated pointing to his win over diaz then he must make the same conclusion with mosley, cause mosley was on his bicycle against diaz untill mosley power caught diaz.

    This article does both give credit to maragarito and then trys to belittle margartio. But in the end the writer aggrees that margarito will give mayweather a tough fight and he should fight mayweather.

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      #32
      this article is almost as bad as the one on the judah-mayweather commentary

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        #33
        Originally posted by wmute
        this article is almost as bad as the one on the judah-mayweather commentary
        im surprised he talked smack about hatton, im my opinion tszyu looked like the tzyu of old in the rematch with mitchell.

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          #34
          Originally posted by K-DOGG
          On Margarito...well said. 99.9% of the public have never heard of him, much less seen him fight.
          thats a great excuse for floyd to keep ducking margarito

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            #35
            When one says over-rated, and measures a fighter's or fighters' caliber based on someone he/they have never fought, one's statement can only be flawed. In boxing, true measurement is only possible inside the ring. I say possible, because, as sometimes happen, controversies follow fights because clean measurements were not achieved. Thus, return-matches are sometimes made to resolve issues (notwitstanding the fact that many return-bouts don't achieve that purpose, either).

            Hatton and Margarito are rated by the article as "over" based on performances against opponents not named Mayweather, although the basis for measurement is Mayweather (and, deservedly so, I must add.)

            Prior to meeting PBF, Castillo was not widely enough spoken of as a real threat to Mayweather (though a handful of pundits raised possibilities). Castillo's showing coupled with PBF's rather un-Mayweather-like performance in the first encounter (blamed on an injured hand) bred demands for a second meeting; which soon took place. The second fight ended with a UD for PBF, the same way as the first did. Given that Castillo lost in both but was given two tries, was Castillo over-rated? How could he have been over-rated when it was common knowledge that Jauregui TKOd him twice (each time in the 10th) before the first Mayweather date? And, conversely, how could he have been given two chances to face Floyd if he was under-rated?

            Zab lost to Baldomir then went on to "defend" against Floyd. Was Zab over-rated? Did the article's author say so then?

            The clamor is for PBF to meet Margarito and Hatton. Marga says he is ready right now; Hatton says he needs a few more fights (until '07). Is it over-rating the two if they are matched against PBF, not as cannon-fodder, but as ones with chances for W's?

            I think the best way to TRY and measure how Hatton and Margarito stand in relation to PBF is for the two (not together, but one after another, of course) to meet PBF where real measurements are possible--inside the ring.

            So, PBF has been lately reported to be on an earnest quest to meet Oscar. That does not mean that fights against the two are thrown out of the window. It simply means that fans may just have to wait a little bit more.

            For now, I'll consider both Hatton and Margarito rated.
            Last edited by grayfist; 04-25-2006, 10:13 PM.

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              #36
              If Floyd were to fight Antonio Margarito, I would bet all my points on Tony.

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                #37
                Originally posted by ferocity
                im surprised he talked smack about hatton, im my opinion tszyu looked like the tzyu of old in the rematch with mitchell.
                I totally agree, he even goes as far as saying something along the lines of "i don't know what was wrong with mitchell when he fought the old man that zoo was"

                that is bull****: when hatton fought zoo, nobody outside of limeyland gave him a chance, and that is not because zoo was past his prime in UK, it was just becasue we did not know enough about hatton, to know that he actually was a very good fighter.

                As for Margarito, he mostly fought nobodies... OK, does that tell us he is a bad fighter? No, look what hatton did after fightin nobodies...

                It's incredible how sometimes the writers for the webisites are like the most biased posters, only with a slightly better english.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by sentido común
                  margarito will prove the haters wrong when he knocks out cotto.
                  dude u are on a roll digging up these old threads. you must be bored

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP View Post
                    Alot of things in life are on a kind of pendulum. For instance when we feel as though something has shifted too far one way we tend to overcompensate by shifting it too far to the other side.

                    It’s not really that bad because usually the two shifts complement each other and create a perfect balance just like the one in an Old Grandfather Clock. Sometimes a balance doesn’t occur and this is what’s happened to the boxing world’s perception of Antonio Margarito and Ricky Hatton. After ignoring, underestimating, and underrating both Margarito and Hatton, the boxing world has come to grossly overrate these two talented pugilists.

                    The thing about it is that it’s just not a few writers here and there, it’s everybody. Most of the Senior Writers for the Ring and its sister publications as well as most of the writers from the internet have opined that “Antonio Margarito and Ricky Hatton are probably the only two guys that can really challenge or beat Mayweather.”

                    Yes Hatton deserved the fighter of the year honors since Taylor’s wins over Hopkins were so competitive and so pitifully boring that it would have been more appropriate to have labeled their two fight series a stalemate. As a result of the controversial decisions, Ricky Hatton deservedly won fighter of the year honors based on his win over Kostya Tszyu who along with Ross, Chavez, and Pryor was probably one of the greatest 140-pounders in history. [details]
                    i love digging. this is the greatest article of all time.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Shanus View Post
                      Shane Mosley would lost to most top 5's from junior welterweight to light middle IMO.
                      Shane is a boring fighter, the clock is ticking and he aint getting any younger.. if you ask me he's been out of his prime since his first loss.. Hatton would put on a much better fight with Mayweather than Mosley ever could, given the opportunity.


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