Comments Thread For: Anthony Joshua-Charles Martin in Serious Talks, Says Hearn

[The plunger man]

Wow, that's pretty harsh and unwarranted criticism or do I dare say - hate. Charles Martin hasn't proved himself, but he jumped at the opportunity to fight for a title, looked decent in that flukey win against Glaskov and is now facing one of the most dangerous and hyped contenders in the sport today. Martin deserves some credit for this and to call him a "street kid going nowhere in life" is just hateful and cynical.

I don't think Martin will beat AJ, but it wouldn't be the biggest upset if he did.

Well even if he is a street kid going nowhere...he will be going somewhere with a truckload of cash and money to set himself up for a good part of his life.....Fred hopple would never see that kind of money in all his life ...so bringing someone down when he is about to become a millionaire whether he wins or loses sounds kind of empty .....Joshua wins the fight easy but still give props to Martin for wanting to face him

[Scipio2009]

Of course it does its world title you mong lol......when you have two world champions from the same country and there big news and they both have world titles to put on the line....don't u think that's a bigger fight to sell....or am I not getting through to you.....tyson fury WBA & WBO vs Anthony Joshua IBF CHAMPION ...2 million dollars makes a lot of sense when you have a world title for it.....are you that brain dead

I will try one more time; why would Matchroom Sport pay Martin $2m, when they can pay out a fifth of that for their next opponent and, by July, be the top challenger to Wilder(WBC), Fury(WBO), and Martin(IBF) regardless?

If Fury beats Klitschko in the rematch, Fury vs Joshua is a massive fight in the UK, with or without the paper IBF belt, which Fury didn't even lose in the first place.

[The plunger man]

I will try one more time; why would Matchroom Sport pay Martin $2m, when they can pay out a fifth of that for their next opponent and, by July, be the top challenger to Wilder(WBC), Fury(WBO), and Martin(IBF) regardless?

If Fury beats Klitschko in the rematch, Fury vs Joshua is a massive fight in the UK, with or without the paper IBF belt, which Fury didn't even lose in the first place.

If if if ? Fury might not even fight Joshua if he defeats klitchcko...and he might face wilder instead...then if fury loses where back to square one lol......so ur saying Joshua should turn down a chance to fight Martin in the hope that he gets a title shot from tyson fury even though there is no promise he will face Joshua ......and basically even if Joshua becomes mandatory to wilder or fury he still will only get 30% of the purse and the champion gets 70% that's the governing bodies rules for purses lol......so basically they could afford to pay Martin 2 million now and Joshua could still get 3 or 4 million if iits in april...it would sell 500k in the uk....would make over 10 million pounds in revenue and don't say it won't because it sold 400k against whyte and this will be bigger....so Joshua would get a bigger purse now than waiting for a mandatory shot l....ur a clever fellow ain't you ....go get a brain silly boy

[Eff Pandas]

I've been defending Joshua against the "he scared" crew lately over this fight, but I got no problem with them deciding to try to get a title fight in April. I mean the reality of this fight is that outside of the title fight aspect, Martin coulda easily been the type of guy Joshua decided to fight next. I'd say Martin is on par more or less with Dillian Whyte minus his flukey, weird title W.

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Martin is so slowwwwwwwww.

Joshua will dominate him.

[MrRolltide91]

Good fight. ..

[Scipio2009]

If if if ? Fury might not even fight Joshua if he defeats klitchcko...and he might face wilder instead...then if fury loses where back to square one lol......so ur saying Joshua should turn down a chance to fight Martin in the hope that he gets a title shot from tyson fury even though there is no promise he will face Joshua ......and basically even if Joshua becomes mandatory to wilder or fury he still will only get 30% of the purse and the champion gets 70% that's the governing bodies rules for purses lol......so basically they could afford to pay Martin 2 million now and Joshua could still get 3 or 4 million if iits in april...it would sell 500k in the uk....would make over 10 million pounds in revenue and don't say it won't because it sold 400k against whyte and this will be bigger....so Joshua would get a bigger purse now than waiting for a mandatory shot l....ur a clever fellow ain't you ....go get a brain silly boy

There's no reason to rush anything with Anthony Joshua; 15 fights into his po career, he's already selling out his home arena (O2), he's starting to build a position as a PPV draw, and he's easily got a handful of fights that 1)make great business sense and 2)actually help Joshua continue to refine his skills [Chisora, Haye, Price, Stiverne, Jennings, Duhaupas can all help improve Joshua].

With Martin, off the rip, asking for $2m-$3m for the fight, I'm categorically stating that, at that price, Matchroom should go elsewhere.

It's obvious that Tyson Fury, if he beats Klitschko again, is going after the unification fight with Wilder; which would make the situation even bigger for Joshua. Tyson Fury beats Wilder, he comes home for a massive stadium fight against Anthony Joshua on Sky Box Office (for a ****load of money in the pot); Wilder beat Fury, and you set up a massive US/UK Olympic medalist showdown that has PPV interest on both shores, and the type of personalities to elevate the fight into the casual sports audience (for a ****load of money).

Anthony Joshua is on the verge of being the top challenger for the WBC, WBO, and IBF heavyweight championship; there's no way that negotiations with all three champions, when Joshua is starting to emerge as a box office hit, seem headed to purse bids. use your head.

and 500k PPV is only ~7.5m British pounds ($10.5m); once the broadcaster takes their piece of the pie, you're left with the equivalent of $6.5m in the final pot, before adding in the live gate and then paying out anything (venue rental, commission fees, medical, marketing, fighter purses, etc).

Even if the gate drives the pot up to $10m, you still have to deduct all the expenses of putting on the event, the rest of the purses for the other fighters on the show, pay out $2m to Martin, pay out whatever Jushua is entitled to as the event's star, and Eddie Hearn is left to eat his hat.

[Damn Wicked]

I wouldn't fault AJ or Martin for taking this fight. If Joshua gets the belt he'll have a lot more leverage in the heavyweight division.

[The plunger man]

There's no reason to rush anything with Anthony Joshua; 15 fights into his po career, he's already selling out his home arena (O2), he's starting to build a position as a PPV draw, and he's easily got a handful of fights that 1)make great business sense and 2)actually help Joshua continue to refine his skills [Chisora, Haye, Price, Stiverne, Jennings, Duhaupas can all help improve Joshua].

With Martin, off the rip, asking for $2m-$3m for the fight, I'm categorically stating that, at that price, Matchroom should go elsewhere.

It's obvious that Tyson Fury, if he beats Klitschko again, is going after the unification fight with Wilder; which would make the situation even bigger for Joshua. Tyson Fury beats Wilder, he comes home for a massive stadium fight against Anthony Joshua on Sky Box Office (for a ****load of money in the pot); Wilder beat Fury, and you set up a massive US/UK Olympic medalist showdown that has PPV interest on both shores, and the type of personalities to elevate the fight into the casual sports audience (for a ****load of money).

Anthony Joshua is on the verge of being the top challenger for the WBC, WBO, and IBF heavyweight championship; there's no way that negotiations with all three champions, when Joshua is starting to emerge as a box office hit, seem headed to purse bids. use your head.

and 500k PPV is only ~7.5m British pounds ($10.5m); once the broadcaster takes their piece of the pie, you're left with the equivalent of $6.5m in the final pot, before adding in the live gate and then paying out anything (venue rental, commission fees, medical, marketing, fighter purses, etc).

Even if the gate drives the pot up to $10m, you still have to deduct all the expenses of putting on the event, the rest of the purses for the other fighters on the show, pay out $2m to Martin, pay out whatever Jushua is entitled to as the event's star, and Eddie Hearn is left to eat his hat.

what the f@ck u talking about $10 milion lol. Obviously you can't do your maths......the price will be £19.99 and if it's 500k that's £10 million pound pound right there not to mention international t.v rights and the live gate which would be another £3 million so total revenue would be in the region of 13 - 15 million pounds that's $20 million dollars lunatic and even if it was £17.50 for the ppv that's still £8.5 million revenue for ppv plus the gate which will take it way past £10 million .....ur not even english how the hell do you know what the ppv will sell for lol....joshua made £4 million for his last fight ....Iif I was joshua I would give up a bit of my purse just to get a world title shot and with title you get more leverage ...btw chisora didn't want the fight and refused to fight joshua lol...now your facts son u sound really ******

I wouldn't fault AJ or Martin for taking this fight. If Joshua gets the belt he'll have a lot more leverage in the heavyweight division.

. Obvious the dumbo above don't see it your way buddy .....yeah your right and it's a big unification fight next summer at Wembley stadium ....that's the biggun in the future

[Scipio2009]

what the f@ck u talking about $10 milion lol. Obviously you can't do your maths......the price will be £19.99 and if it's 500k that's £10 million pound pound right there not to mention international t.v rights and the live gate which would be another £3 million so total revenue would be in the region of 13 - 15 million pounds that's $20 million dollars lunatic and even if it was £17.50 for the ppv that's still £8.5 million revenue for ppv plus the gate which will take it way past £10 million .....ur not even english how the hell do you know what the ppv will sell for lol....joshua made £4 million for his last fight ....Iif I was joshua I would give up a bit of my purse just to get a world title shot and with title you get more leverage ...btw chisora didn't want the fight and refused to fight joshua lol...now your facts son u sound really ******
. Obvious the dumbo above don't see it your way buddy .....yeah your right and it's a big unification fight next summer at Wembley stadium ....that's the biggun in the future

The price for Sky Box Office is not 20gbp, lol. They charged that figure for Froch-Groves II and... that's it.