Comments Thread For: Duva: MSG, MGM Want Kovalev vs. Stevenson Clash

[Zaroku]

Great fight.
Adios Adonis.

You are gonna get Krushed.
I doubt Adonis has the nuts to fight like Pascal did in defeat.

[Ray*]

Kovalev has an exclusive contract with hbo, meaning he can only fight on hbo.

Stevenson doesn't have a contract with any network, meaning he can fight on any network.

that's why the fight has to happen on hbo.

What's so hard to understand about that?

So Adonis is the one that isnt tied down? So who is taking the blame here? the guy that is restricted or the one that isn't? If people are accusing Adonis or "Running" to Showtime or Haymon how come no one is accusing Kovalev or signing with HBO?

[bluebeam]

Showtime and HBO may co-produce this fight...

Why would hbo do that when they don't have too?

That's only been done twice and those were the 2 biggest fights of all time financially at the time they happened.

Lewis contracted by hbo
Tyson contracted by showtime

Floyd contracted by showtime
Pacquiao contracted by hbo

Kovalev contracted by hbo
Stevenson contracted by no network

Hbo isn't gonna do a joint ppv with Showtime for a fight with a fighter that's not even contracted to showtime. And a fight that will do 300K ppv's

Boxing politics 101

[bluebeam]

So Adonis is the one that isnt tied down? So who is taking the blame here? the guy that is restricted or the one that isn't? If people are accusing Adonis or "Running" to Showtime or Haymon how come no one is accusing Kovalev or signing with HBO?

Because every fighter in the world wants a contract with hbo.
This is nothing new. Showtime became competitive when Schaefer was running gbp but other than that. Being a hbo fighter was always bigger than being a showtime fighter or epsn fighter. with the exception of floyd and Tyson who were bigger than the networks.

The bottom line is if a fighter wants a fight and he has no network allegiance, networks aren't even a factor in negotiations.

Stevenson says the fight gotta be on showtime, but he isn't even signed to showtime.

That's what makes him look like he's ducking

This isn't about what network is better. This is about common sense

[Eff Pandas]

How is he worth more than Kovalev?

Where did I even mention Kovalev like that? I think about the only thing I said about Kovalev is none of this is his fault as this was a HBO & Stevenson issue.

Why do you praise fighters that look for money over good opponents?

I'm not praising it so much as understanding it. As a fan I ALWAYS wanna see the best fight the best. Thats why I'm a UFC fan cuz that crazy insane concept of the best fighting the best is ALWAYS happening in the UFC.

Being real doe. As a person trying to make it in this life there is certain ability to make money, & the most money you can make, that is required of all of us. Stevenson was offered a higher amount of money that raised his market value & HBO had the ability to match that offer & refused to. You can blame Stevenson if it makes you feel better, you can blame HBO if it makes you feel better, but the reality is its business & my assumption is there are probably solid arguments on both sides (Stevenson's is clear, his market value was deemed higher than HBO was offering, HBO's might have been budget concerns or they just didn't care THAT much about making that fight at the time idk) that could be spun their way more or less, but the bottom line is this isn't a "running" situation as some of you f#cking momo's love to discuss from the comfort of your couch.

Do you think Stevenson cares about you as a fan?

Do you think I care about Stevenson the man? I respect anyone getting in the ring, but if I ran into Stevenson in 10 yrs & he asks me to borrow $20 I'm almost assuredly saying "f#ck no" (I got Floyd, Manny, Tito or Jorge Paez doe if they ever need $20, Oscar would be on that list too if I knew he wouldn't go buy drugs).

And BTW theres no way you can tell me Kov's opponents are'nt better than the ones Adonis faced

I love how you momo's say one thing that you are wrong about, get proven wrong about & then make up arguments about other **** I wasn't talking about lmfao.

I'm not in a Stevenson vs Kovalev **** measuring contest with you. I'm not heavily invested emotionally or as a fan in Kovalev or Stevenson. I think Stevenson is probably gonna get KO'd by Kovalev in June or whenever & I think Kovalev is gonna look like Donaire vs Rigo in late 2016 when he fights Ward or go to sleep vs Beterbiev sometime in 2017 most likely. I won't be wearing my Kovalev or Stevenson hat & shirt shouting their names during any of those fights regardless of if they lose as I expect or if they surprise me & win.

[kej718]

The difference is povetkin doesn't have a contract with a network and neither does wilder. So they can fight on any network

Where as Kovalev has a contract with hbo. He has no choice but to fight on hbo. Stevenson can fight on any network.

A contracted hbo fighter cannot fight on showtime.

This **** is not rocket science

He did not have that contract when he insisted on being the WBC mandatory. Stevenson is a Haymon fighter and they are banned from HBO. Look at how they treat those fighters that are not with them (Lamply especially, can you blame Stevenson for wanting to get paid first if he has to fight on HBO). If it can only be on HBO then the split should be in Stevenson favor right (he brings in more money to the table)?

[Ray*]

Because every fighter in the world wants a contract with hbo.
This is nothing new. Showtime became competitive when Schaefer was running gbp but other than that. Being a hbo fighter was always bigger than being a showtime fighter or epsn fighter. with the exception of floyd and Tyson who were bigger than the networks.

The bottom line is if a fighter wants a fight and he has no network allegiance, networks aren't even a factor in negotiations.

Stevenson says the fight gotta be on showtime, but he isn't even signed to showtime.

That's what makes him look like he's ducking

This isn't about what network is better. This is about common sense

Is that why Showtime paid adonis more money? at the end of the day the fighters and their teams would go with the biggest and best deals, no fighter would be with HBO just because " Every fighter in the world wants a contract with HBO"........If showtime offers Kovalev a better deal best believe he would move there rather than re-new his contract at HBO.....Which Adonis did by the way, I just laugh at this comments about "Adonis running to showtime"

[about.thousands]

Kovalev has an exclusive contract with hbo, meaning he can only fight on hbo.

Stevenson doesn't have a contract with any network, meaning he can fight on any network.

that's why the fight has to happen on hbo.

What's so hard to understand about that?

That's not hard to understand. What's hard to understand is why should Stevenson take less money than he could make just because Kovalev is hamstrung by his HBO contract? This fight should've been made last year when it went up for purse bid. At that time Kovalev didn't have an exclusive contract with HBO. When both fighters were free to fight on any network and stood to make a lot of money, Kovalev resigned an exclusive contract with HBO.

[brettWall]

Chickenson can't even fight Pascal in a place where any contact sport is big. A place where they both live. Locals have been demanding it. Let alone Kovalev. Mind you, there are zero issues in the Pascal fight. And it's a huge money fight.

Tell me why I would have sympathy over Chickenson.

[tenPt]

Definitely ppv worthy!