Comments Thread For: Duva: MSG, MGM Want Kovalev vs. Stevenson Clash

[casheddie]

Cmon man you can't let that old **** go now that we could actually see the fight?

And at least be honest about the facts. 1)there was no contract for Kovalev vs Stevenson to happen, 2)Stevenson got a better offer from Showtime & 3)HBO had the matching rights & refused to match them thus allowing Stevenson to go where he was going to get paid more. So the blame should be equally put on both Stevenson & HBO & the only thing you can really honestly say is it wasn't Kovalev's fault the fight didn't happen. And personally I'm always gonna side with the guy who's trying to take the job that pays better if the opportunity presents itself in our capitalist society over the company who's got millions upon millions, but lowballs guys.

SHUT THE **** UP! Kovalev took better fights while Stevenson fought Tommy Karpency, Sakio Bika and Dmitry Sukhotsky. Michel even exposed Adonis when Adonis declined the deal from HBO even when his attorney and Michel advised him to take it. You're the guy who says yay a fighter got paid but then we never see good fights. As a previous writer mentioned, you can't overpay a fighter for bad fights and then wonder why they ask for overpayment with a legitimate opponent. Case and point: Quillin with Golovkin and Adonis with Kovalev.

[about.thousands]

HBO pays off the media

I remember when the first Kovalev-Stevenson fight first went down. Everybody rightly blamed HBO for blowing the fight. The details were pretty clear. But over time those same media members that blamed HBO suddenly ran with the story that Stevenson ran to Showtime to duck Kovalev and stopped mentioning HBO wouldn't negotiate with Stevenson pre or post Haymon.

HBO is known for buying members off the media. The bought off Frank Rich, Thomas Hauser (the most influential writer in boxing) and Peter Nelson. Hauser has done a damn good job of keeping the media off HBO's ass and on Haymon's.

[Pigeons]

If Kovalev beats Pascal, Stevenson, and Ward he'd amass a FOTD-worthy resume in the span of 1 year.

[Eff Pandas]

SHUT THE **** UP!

GFY momo.

Kovalev took better fights while Stevenson fought Tommy Karpency, Sakio Bika and Dmitry Sukhotsky. Michel even exposed Adonis when Adonis declined the deal from HBO even when his attorney and Michel advised him to take it. You're the guy who says yay a fighter got paid but then we never see good fights. As a previous writer mentioned, you can't overpay a fighter for bad fights and then wonder why they ask for overpayment with a legitimate opponent. Case and point: Quillin with Golovkin and Adonis with Kovalev.

Sorry you can't understand facts. Its really as simple as pay cats what they are worth & if you don't don't be surprised when people leave. And like I said to the mop guy Stevenson made more money fighting less risky fighters than he'd have made fighting more risky fighters on the gold standard in boxing, HBO. If the #1 entity in the game is gonna lowball you I think you gotta walk. Its the principle of the matter at some point.

[MrRolltide91]

Actually that's not what happened but never let the truth get in the way of a good narrative. The first thing you have to realize is that Adonis had been working without a manager before he even signed with Haymon. Main Events, HBO, & GYM tried to take advantage of Stevenson during this time knowing he didn't have a manager. He would take his contracts to a lawyer before he signed. The deal was for Stevenson to fight Fonfara and Kovalev to fight Agnew and then meet. Main Events agreed to the deal. HBO agreed to the deal. Kovalev agreed to the deal. GYM agreed to the deal. Stevenson didn't agree to the deal. The main reason he didn't agree to the deal was because he didn't have a fight contract with HBO while Kovalev did. Adonis wanted more money per fight since he didn't have the security of a fight contract. I think that's more than reasonable. He was the A-side, the fight was going to be in his hometown and he was the WBC/Lineal champ. That's when he went out and hired Haymon. He knew he was being screwed over and that deal benefited everybody but Stevenson. Haymon stepped in and said more money for the Fonfara fight and they'll discuss a Kovalev fight later. You have to remember, Stevenson didn't go with Showtime until a month after signing with Haymon. Showtime made an offer for the Fonfara fight and a chance to fight Hopkins for a unification after the Shumenov fight. HBO declined to match the offer so Stevenson left. The Stevenson-Kovalev fight would've been made if they had given Stevenson a multi-fight contract or more money for those two fights like he was asking for before he signed with Haymon. Stevenson should've never been working without a manager and letting his promoter dictate the pay and terms of his fights. Duva got pissy and started suing everybody. Golden Boy fired Shaefer and got scared and Hopkins went to HBO to fight Kovalev for less money. But nobody ever says he ducked Stevenson.

HBO coulda wrapped up Stevenson 2-fight deal while ago but got really cheap all of a sudden and it looks like it'll come back to haunt them.

— Dan Rafael (@danrafaelespn)

We'll know soon if HBO is going to blow Stevenson-Kovalev. They have a deadline coming to match Showtime's offer for Stevenson-Fonfara.

— Dan Rafael (@danrafaelespn)

And now you know the rest of the story

Ether......

[Shadoww702]

GFY momo.



Sorry you can't understand facts. Its really as simple as pay cats what they are worth & if you don't don't be surprised when people leave. And like I said to the mop guy Stevenson made more money fighting less risky fighters than he'd have made fighting more risky fighters on the gold standard in boxing, HBO. If the #1 entity in the game is gonna lowball you I think you gotta walk. Its the principle of the matter at some point.

^^^This

I didn't realize Nadjib Mohammedi, 100 year old Hopkins, and Blake Jenner were much better opponent?s??

[Shadoww702]

SHUT THE **** UP! Kovalev took better fights while Stevenson fought Tommy Karpency, Sakio Bika and Dmitry Sukhotsky. Michel even exposed Adonis when Adonis declined the deal from HBO even when his attorney and Michel advised him to take it. You're the guy who says yay a fighter got paid but then we never see good fights. As a previous writer mentioned, you can't overpay a fighter for bad fights and then wonder why they ask for overpayment with a legitimate opponent. Case and point: Quillin with Golovkin and Adonis with Kovalev.

????

Can you please provide those HOFame fighters Kov. fought better than Adonis???

Please do list them? I need a good laugh!!!

Also why did you ONLY list the CANS the other fight fought and not your besties???

[Superbee]

Kovalev and Stevenson pedigree are quite on par if you ask me... Pascal is the only one who could make a real comparison and it won't happen with Stevenson... ever ...

Hopkins ? I mean the guy was shot and had 2 decisions fight against Pascal.

[casheddie]

GFY momo.



Sorry you can't understand facts. Its really as simple as pay cats what they are worth & if you don't don't be surprised when people leave. And like I said to the mop guy Stevenson made more money fighting less risky fighters than he'd have made fighting more risky fighters on the gold standard in boxing, HBO. If the #1 entity in the game is gonna lowball you I think you gotta walk. Its the principle of the matter at some point.

How is he worth more than Kovalev? Why do you praise fighters that look for money over good opponents? Do you think Stevenson cares about you as a fan? He could **** on boxing fans cause he realizes that no one cares about good fights if they're watching PBC. And BTW theres no way you can tell me Kov's opponents are'nt better than the ones Adonis faced

[casheddie]

????

Can you please provide those HOFame fighters Kov. fought better than Adonis???

Please do list them? I need a good laugh!!!

Also why did you ONLY list the CANS the other fight fought and not your besties???

WHO WAS TOMMY KARPENCY? And Why was Bika fighting at LHW for the lineal title when he was a super-middleweight who never fought at that weight before and just came off a loss to Dirrell? You must be one of those broke guys who only watches PBC on Fox Sports 26